Re: Firewall log analysis

From: David Qunt (davidqunt_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 06/16/04 

Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:23:25 GMT

Lars M. Hansen <badnews@hansenonline.net> squirted these wordjisms deep
inside the bumtube of the newstwat in
news:95d0d0dm80pj2klr3qksvi5rbjhnoopk3p@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:31:11 GMT, David Qunt spoketh
>
>>
>>As I understand it this is a public discussion forum. I tried to be as
>>helpful as I could within my own limitations and knowledge.
>>
>
> I merely pointed out that it wasn't particularly helpful to say that
> product A does for product B what the OP wants done with product C.
>
> I'd absolutely encourage you to be helpful. There's nothing better
> than having more people knowing and understanding computer and network
> security considering how big this issue is getting. However, I'd
> encourage you to research things a little more before offering your
> help. It only takes 5 minutes to a google search on the topic, and see
> what you get:
> http://www.google.com/search?q=sonicwall+reporting+logging+software&btn
> G=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
>
>

Encouraging me?

Hmmmm, your first response to the OP was

"I doubt such a program exists. "

Did you google to check that first? After my post pointing out one did
exist for ZoneAlam, Duane responded by highlighting kiwisyslog.com for
several brands of FW and routers.

However, instead of responding as Duane did when he replied to my post, you
simply sniped this at me:

"ZoneAlarm is a toy for desktops, Sonicwall is a professional grade
network firewall. Hardly a comparison..."

Encouragement was not what you were doing there, Lars, despite what you now
claim. What you did there was cricically lecture me for not much more than
passing comment.

Your suggestion of googling may be valid to a certain extent. But if you
take that to its logical conclusion, any time someone asks a question
online, or tries to answer one or help out, he or she will be pointed at
google and told to piss off and look there. But never mind.

In any event, I would point out that what you said applies equally to the
OP. And you, for that matter. I would suggest that your advice for me to
google might be better directed at the OP. He is, after all, the one with
the Sonicwall firewall, and the log he wants to interpret, and the other
things he wants to do with it. He is therefore the one who was looking for
help, which is why I am slightly puzzled why you had a go at me.

I am merely a passer-by, lurking in here for any useful information, and
chipping in occasionally. I will probably be doing that less frequently in
future, despite your sudden change from lecturing to to encouragement, if
this kind of exchange is the usual result.

If it's any consolation to you, there is no need to encourage me towards
google. When I am looking for an answer myself, I usually consult google as
my first port of all. That is probably why you will not find many posts
from me asking questions which have already been answered elsewhere. I
don't use google to research everything I am about to post, and I suspect
you don't either, as it is simply not practical.

I still stand by my post insofar as it was intended to be constructive,
unlike yours - even if what I said was not technically correct, it led
immediately to Duane pointing out a possible alternative that may do what
the OP requires. Which is more than you did, preferring to say instead that
you doubt such a program exists.

Still, I shall apologise for my utterly miserable failure to be 100% sure
of my facts all of the time when discussing matters online, especially
since it's a characteristic shared by about 100% of people at least some of
the time. I shall think twice about trying to help from now on, so that I
can avoid stealing 3k of your bandwidth and ruining your utopian ideal of
how you would like this newsgroup to be run if it were yours to control.

Best regards 

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> David Qunt
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