Re: Survive without ICMP?

From: Jens Hoffmann (jh_at_bofh.de)
Date: 05/20/04 

Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:29:22 +0200

Hi,

Purl Gurl <purlgurl@purlgurl.net> wrote:
>> That is an alchemistic view on the network.
>
> Your local network is not the internet.

Right.

> You cannot control transactions over the
> internet.

Wrong.

> You cannot control remote servers,

Wrong.

> you cannot control gateways,

Wrong.

> you cannot control
> how many gateway hops a transaction makes

Wrong.

> nor
> can you control what happens to transaction
> data coming through internet gateways.

Who do you think, controls internet gateways?

> A simple test of this is to reach out into the
> internet then set all gateway speeds to 2 megabits
> per second. Cannot be done.

;) It can. You need to have some passwords, but that is not the point.

> Use of ipsec is a clear example of no control
> of the internet.

No, a result of the knowledge, that a public network is not
controlled by a single entity.

> None of that is alchemy nor gold. All of that
> is common knowledge.

Common, perhaps. But wrong.

Let's have a look non control of the route your pakets take.

Look into the meaning of routing, routing protocols, OSPF (for
local nets...) or BGP (routing control on the internet).

Greetings,
   Jens

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