Re: Zonealarm altnernatives

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Date: 04/05/04 

Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 15:33:40 GMT

Duane Arnold wrote:
>>Kind of hard on him aren't you? The XP firewall doesn't protect against
>>outbound trafic. If you are into firewalls you should know this. How
>>the hell can a security newsgroup say pratice safe computing, and then
>>tell a home user to half ass protect themselves?
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> The same can be said about a NAT router that only stops unsolicited inbound
> with no outbound protection, just like the XP ICF. :)
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> Many users just run with a NAT router and AV and don't have any issues.
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> Win 2K, XP, and Win2k3 do have a second element on the O/S called IPsec that
> can stop inbound or outbound traffic by port, protocol, IP, DNS, and subnet
> that will supplement any host based FW on the machine, including ICF.
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> In addition to that, with the release of SP 2 for XP, ICF will be put on par
> with third party solutions and will include application control as well. You
> can use Google to find a XP SP 2 article. :)
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> http://www.petri.co.il/block_ping_traffic_with_ipsec.htm
> http://www.analogx.com/contents/articles/ipsec.htm
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> My oh my <g>
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> Duane :)
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I don't see people running to get the SP2 fix. Not when M$ has already
said that certain apps will not work after this fix. Would be nice if
this SP2 fix does what it claims that it will do. But as always I don't
plan to hold my breath anticipating it. M$ track record is lousy. I
can't even count on both hands the number of fixes that wasn't. That is
how poor of a job they have done in the past. I don't expect this to
change. When setting up a newbie box I always tell them if you run
Windows you need all the protection you can get. Depend on yourself for
the security on your box. Don't count on M$ to fix it. No one considers
me paranoid about this either. I have had several to say they were glad
for the advice I had given them.

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