Re: spoofing ip as broadcast

GW_at_deytriedtokillDADDYBWWwahhhh.com
Date: 12/12/03


Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:58:02 GMT

In article <JHEJWZ6L37966.9582291667@Gilgamesh-frog.org>,
 <GW@deytriedtokillDADDYBWWwahhhh.com> wrote:
:There's an attack for win9x machines wherein the hacker spoofs another users
:IP so as to cause all those on the same network to consider that IP as a "broadcast"
:IP such that the all respond, kicking the user off the net. What is this called,
:how is it done and is there a defense other than a different OS?

roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson) replied:----

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I have no idea about the name, but I'm sure your description must 
be wrong.
What would make sense as an attack would be to spoof someone else's
MAC address and IP address, and send out a packet to a
broadcast IP, either the subnet broadcast address or the global broadcast
address. If the target service and port is something likely to be running
on a number of computers, then it is possible that the replies would
end up flooding the victim's machine.
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GW@deytriedtokillDADDYBWWwahhhh.com answers:
Yes, sorry, that is what I was referring to-I'm just learning this 
stuff now. I got a flood of packets from just about every imaginable
IP that were all blocked by my firewall, but all to the same port-
8886. Apparently my box became overwhelmed and I was disconnected. However
the attack I first posted about usually involves IPs of the same ISP
doing the response to the broadcast or, does a global broadcast involve
a wider range of responding machines? In this case, there doesn't seem
to be any relationship between the IPs of the sending machine other
than them sending packets to the same local port.
I've run two of the best AV pgms around, that according to tests 
find 99+% of all trojans as well as a trojan checker and nothing was 
found. However I have dwnloaded some warez programs, so maybe my machine 
is compromised. The firewall which was dwnloaded from the mfg, is supposedly
one of the best
shows no connections being attempted for out packets, only blocking of
flood of in packets. This occurred shortly after going online, using
a socksified program to usenet (btw, are socks protocol packets picked
up by firewalls, since it is not a usual protocol?). It persisted until
I was booted from my dialup, (connection lost). The entire log consists
of only a series of blocks to incoming packets from various IPs, which
appear random and all to pot 8886. I did not have time to run a sniffer
to try to gather more info. During this time I was downloading usenet
articles through an open socks proxy. Maybe the attack came from that
proxy?


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