Re: oh forgot something

From: NeoSadist (neos@dist)
Date: 02/21/03 

From: "NeoSadist" <neos@dist>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:42:03 -0700

"Henry Kissinger" <SpamFree@spam.com> wrote in message
news:YF95a.18427$Hb.305985@news1.west.cox.net...
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> yawn awol = desertion = treason. you look it up!

No, AWOL isn't the case. Desertion isn't the case. We know where he is.
Treason is doing things to intentionally bring harm to the country, and so
far that ain't the case either.

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> >
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> yawn. anyone remember peace and prosperity, or when the whole world didn't
> hate us?

The world will always hate us cause they envy our prosperity. The whole
world doesn't hate us, or else it would be world war III. Name a point in
our history where the world wasn't at war for a period of 50 years and I'll
believe that. Man is imperfect and corrupt, and there's always been
something going on somewhere.

>
> Bull***. It's called Deism, not the jerry fartwell pat robberson gawd in
a
> box bull***. you are ignorant and totally uninformed. you must be an
> average Amerikan male
>

1) That ain't my name.
2) I didn't mention his name.
(You're such a troll: always trying to distract from the issue at hand)
Either way, it's fact. And who said I've got "God in a box". If anything,
He ain't in a box, cause no one has the power to put Him in one.

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> Correct. And the WTC would still be standing, we wouldn't have the largest
> debt in history and we wouldn't have the hatred of the entire world. we'd
> also have a leader who could speak without a looney toons script
>

Bull. You can't claim that it was Bush's fault. I don't see any proof, and
no one else does either. If there was any, I guarantee the people left
living that loved those who are victims of it would surely have sued. They
sued the airlines...

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> Wee with our School of the Americas training terrorists for use world
wide,
> we are setting one hell of an example
>

You're so pathetically illogical! What terrorists are we training? None.
All you know comes from a system of a down cd that you bought, probably.
(Actually, downloaded illegally off of kazaa)

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> So our ambassador, April Glaspie, told Hussein that this country had no
> position on the Iraq-Kuwait conflict. Then we turned around and invaded
> Iraq. In other words, we lied (again)
>

Dude, that was years ago. It was an example for us not to forget that we
needed help in our beginnings just like almost everyone else.
Even then, no proof. You've been brainwashed, most likely...

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> So does North Korea and Israel (the 2nd largest terrorist nation on the
> planet)
>

No, 1) NKorea has them, but is threatening with them. If you have two kids
10 feet away, one claiming to have a gun behind his back (but don't have one
yet) and another pointing it at you, which is the biggest threat?
Israel doesn't have them. But even then, if they did, let the UN
investigate them too. They don't.

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> He's great at hiding.
>
> Like Bush and Cheney?

I don't see them with impersonators and/or secret underground hideouts. No
facts.

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> Like free elections in Florida, Georgia nad Nebraska? Funny you should
> mention "dictator," since El Chimpo Bush has professed on at least three
> occasions of aspiring to become one (which he has).
>

Again, you've got no facts. The democrats, at the beginning of the florida
krap, went over to put up booths and interview seniors that mistakenly vote
for the wrong person. My grandparents were among them. However, the
majority were saying that they accidentally voted for Gore and wanted to
instead vote for Bush. After enough of that, the democrats silently packed
up their krap and left. Do they tell you that? No. I trust my
grandparents more than I trust you. He was there, you were not. No facts.

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> Oh the chemcial weapons we sold him under license from the Department of
> Commerce?
>

Uh, no. We didn't or else we'd be on the list. No facts.

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> Like Agent Orange?
>

Again, no facts. We used it because at the time it was believed that it
helped our troops. They realized their mistake and stopped using it. Those
affected are being treated and that free of charge. I've been to army
medical hospitals, you haven't.
And on top of that, my uncle has gulf war syndrone. He kept his job in the
military. He is being treated for free, and was made to sign something
stating that in exchange for not suing the government (when most people
blame the oil fires for this anyways), he gets free healthcare for the rest
of his life.
Again, you have no facts.

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> He was genociding the kurds in the north (a
> > peaceful tribe)
>
> with our tacit approval for years

No facts.

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> until the UN imposed a no-fly-zone in the north to protect
> > them. He daily locks onto our pilots that are patrolling the southern
> > no-fly-zone (to protect kuwait).
>
> has he ever hit one?

No, but he has fired on them. He hasn't hit them because 1) our pilots are
well trained and 2) our technology is higher. But a lock-on (radar
terminology) is intentional, and the last step before firing. Beyond that,
you only lock-on to fire. And he has fired. We fired back in self defense.
The man constantly throws machinery into the DMZ and no-fly zones. His migs
have hid underneath commercial airliners to fly into our allies' territory.
The man is doing this on purpose.
And I guess you haven't seen how he treats his army either, since we had to
nurse them all back to health when they were surrendering to us in the gulf
war. We fed them, clothed them, gave them medical treatment, and then at
the end of the war they were shipped back to iraq. You know nothing.

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> > He also has quite a large stash of oil, but does it go to medical care
for
> > his people? Does it go to their economy? No. In fact, it is estimated
> > that 5% of the economy goes to the people, while 90% roughly goes to
> > building a military and all his secret labs and stuff. He is raping
their
> > economy.
>
> Sounds like Corporate Amerika to me...

No, you have choice, they don't. We don't spend that much on our military,
even though it's the best in the world. You have social security (not my
choice, but...) and free health care. They don't. I don't necessarily
agree with how our country is run, but it's not run like that. Since this
is a democracy (basically), if enough people didn't like it, they'd either
leave or change things.
You can change things, but I don't see you doing so. You just sit at your
computer and try to think of trollish things to say. No facts.

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>
>
> > Oh well. You probably also believe in evolution, which actually defies
> the
> > laws of science.
> >
> >
> Oh another fucking Flat Earther. Yeah I know, gawd *** the earth out one
> day 6,000 years ago after eating at Taco Bell....
>
>

Uh, no, I'm not. You're pathetic.
Remember, evolution is a theory, and creation can no more be proved than
evolution, since both are faith. Natural selection isn't what I'm referring
to. Big band and cosmic evolution, and the origin of species. Science is
what can be observed (no one was there to witness the origin of the
universe, either side) and reproduced in the lab (neither can be).
Let's see you answer my questions if you're so smart:

  1.. Where did the space for the universe come from?

  2.. Where did matter itself come from?

  3.. Where did the laws of the universe come from (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

  4.. How did matter get so perfectly organized?

  5.. Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

  6.. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

  7.. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

  8.. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

  9.. Why would any plant or animal want to reproduce more of its kindsince
this would only make more mouths to feed and decrease the chances of
survival? (Does the individual have a drive to survive, or the species? How
do you explain this?)

  10.. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new,
improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese
books.)

  11.. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals
prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor? Don't all chevy 350's
seem to have come from General Motors, for example?

  12.. Natural selection only works with the genetic information available
and tends only to keep a species stable. How would you explain the
increasing complexity in the genetic code that must have occurred if
evolution were true?

  13.. When, where, why, and how did:
      a.. Single-celled plants become multi-celled? (Where are the two and
three-celled intermediates?)
      a.. Single-celled animals evolve?
      a.. Fish change to amphibians?
      a.. Amphibians change to reptiles?
      a.. Reptiles change to birds? (The lungs, bones, eyes,reproductive
organs, heart, method of locomotion, body covering, etc., are all very
different!)

    How did the intermediate forms live?

  14.. When, where, why, how, and from what did:
      a.. Whales evolve?
      a.. Sea horses evolve?
      a.. bats evolve?
      a.. Eyes evolve?

      a.. Ears evolve?

      a.. Hair, skin, feathers, scales, nails, claws, etc., evolve?

  15.. Which evolved first how, and how long, did it work without the
others)?
      a.. The digestive system, the food to be digested, the appetite, the
ability to find and eat the food, the digestive juices, or the body's
resistance to its own digestive juice (stomach, intestines, etc.)?
      a.. The drive to reproduce or the ability to reproduce?
      a.. The lungs, the mucus lining to protect them, the throat, or the
perfect mixture of gases to be breathed into the lungs?
      a.. DNA or RNA to carry the DNA message to cell parts?
      a.. The termite or the flagella in its intestines that actually digest
the cellulose?
      a.. The plants or the insects that live on and pollinate the plants?
      a.. The bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or muscles to move th
e bones?
      a.. The nervous system, repair system, or hormone system?
      a.. The immune system or the need for it?

  16.. There are many thousands of examples of symbiosis that defy an
evolutionary explanation. Why must we teach students that evolution is the
only explanation for these relationships?

  17.. How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals
develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?

  18.. When, where, why, and how did man evolve feelings? Love, mercy,
guilt, etc. would never evolve in the theory of evolution.

  19.. *How did photosynthesis evolve?

  20.. *How did thought evolve?

  21.. *How did flowering plants evolve, and from that?

  22.. *What kind of evolutionist are you? Why are you not one of the other
eight or ten kinds?

  23.. *Is there one clear prediction of macroevolution that has proved
true?

  24.. *What is so scientific about the idea of hydrogen as becoming human?

  25.. *Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?

And, from a recent bill in arkansas that wants to take public funding away
for those teaching evolution:

(3) Example of such theories include, but shall not be
limited to:
(A) The theory of the age of the earth;
(B) The theory of the origin of life;
(C) The theory that homology in vertebrate limbs is evidence for common
ancestry;
(D) The theory that the "geologic column" accurately represents different
time periods on earth. The "geologic column" does not exist anywhere on the
earth, except in textbooks; and
(E) The theory that fossils represents missing links between life forms. It
can not be proven that any fossil had any offspring.
(F) Carbon, Radioisotope Dating;
(i) Shells from living snails were carbon dated as being 27,000 years old;
(ii) One part of the Vollosovitch Mammoth carbon dated at 29,500 years and
another part at 44,000 years; and
(G) Potassium Argon Dating. Basalt from Mount
Kilauea Iki, Hawaii in 1959 gave a K-AR age of 8,500,000 years old.
(d) The General Assembly finds that:
(1) Science is a special way of knowing and understanding the physical world
that uses the "scientific method " to conduct rigorous investigations into
processes that are observable and repeatable;
(2) (2) Science is a discipline that employs skeptical peer review and
experiments attempting to falsify ongoing and prior scientific work to
ensure the validity and integrity of results;
(3) Many ideas and evidences of prior scientific work once believed to be
true have been proven false or even fraudulent in many cases, including, but
not limited to the following:
(A)(i) Haeckel's Embryos;
(ii) Proven false in 1874 by Professor
Wilhelm His, Sr. Ernst Haeckel was convicted of fraud for this in 1874.
Human embryos never have gills - not even rudimentary ones;
(B)(i) The Miller - Urey Experiment;
(ii) Scientists have never proven that this test represents the atmosphere
at any time on earth.
(C)(i) Archaeopteryx as a missing link;
(ii) An X-ray resonance spectrograph of the
British Museum fossil showed that the material containing the feather
impressions differed significantly from the rest of the fossil slab.
(D)(i) Peppered Moths;
(ii) The photographs used in current textbooks are fraudulent as the moths
were discovered to be dead and glued in place.
(E)(i) Fossil Horses;
(ii) It is fraudulent to state that modern horses descended from fossil
horses with four toes.
(F)(i) Heidelberg Man;
(ii) Built from a jaw bone that was conceded to be quite human;
(G)(i) Nebraska Man;
(ii) Scientifically built up from one tooth and later learned to be the
tooth of an extinct pig;
(H)(i) Piltdown Man;
(ii) The jawbone actually belonged to a modern ape;
(I)(i) Peking Man;
(ii) Supposedly 500,000 years old. Ten humans were found with the "Peking
Man" along with crushed monkey skulls and tools.
(J)(i) Neanderthal Man;
(ii) At the International Congress of
Zoology (1958) Dr. A. J. E. Cave said his examination showed that the famous
Neanderthal skeleton found in France over 50 years ago is that of an old man
who suffered from arthritis;
(K)(i) Homo-erectus (originally "Java Man" and later Pithecanthropus
erectus) was made from a few scraps of bone found in
1891. (ii) The skull cap came from an ape and three teeth and thigh bone (50
feet away) came from a human. Two normal human skulls were also found, but
purposely hidden for 30 years.
(L)(i) Cro-Magnon Man;
(ii) One of the earliest and best-established fossils is at least equal in
physique and brain capacity to modern man;
(M)(i) "Lucy;"
(ii) Charles Oxnard studied 16 years and used computer multi-variant
analysis and concluded "Lucy" is not intermediate
(N)(i) Vestigial Structures;
(ii) As science improves, our knowledge of the body has increased and
functions of parts formerly thought to be useless are becoming known; and no
proven vestigial structures exists.
(O)(i) Lobe-fined fish;
(ii) Lobe-fined fish are "index fossils" for rock 325-410 million years old.
These fish are still alive today.
"Coelacanth" was found in 1938 and still inhabits the Indian Ocean. It is
obvious that it cannot be an "index fossil" for any age rock."

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