Re: Firewall Suggestions
From: Stupified (neosadist@hotmail.com)
Date: 01/22/03
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From: "Stupified" <neosadist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:37:47 -0600
"Duane Arnold" <notme@notme.com> wrote in message
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> I agree with Stup on everything except for two of them.
>
> 1) The Win98 issue is obvious to me that application works on Win98. I
have
> been there when moving an app to like Win 2k or even to another Win98 or
Win
> 2K to Win 2K and watched the app *crap* with me being on the phone with
the
> vendor completely pissed at the whole situation. The old saying goes, if
> it's not *broke* don't *fix* it.
True, there can be problems migrating to another operating system, but
still, in a business environment, it's my opinion that win98 has no place
there, along with win95 and winme. True, better win98se than the others
lol.
>
> 2) The Linksys router is good for protecting from an attack from the
> Internet. But the router is useless on the LAN side. And once a machine is
> infected with a self populating worm, virus etc. etc., the machines will
> attack each other on the LAN or private side of the router , because of
the
> vary nature of the Win O/S(s) with MS file and Print Sharing, TCP/IP and
> NetBeui, etc., the machines are vulnerable to each other.
True, but that's what common sense and good antivirus are for. True, the
machines are vulnerable to each other, but I think that a hardware firewall
for the entire LAN plus a software firewall is just overkill. You want them
to be less vulnerable to each other, use an operating system that isn't
itself a liability.
>
> That's why I and anyone else who uses BlackIce 3.5 IDS/firewall knows that
> BlackIce will not only back-up the router with its protection from attack
> from the Internet, but will protect the machine from attack from another
> machine on the LAN. BlackIce will protect even if IP(s) have been accepted
> between machines, if the BlackIce IDS sees an attack such as a worm,
virus,
> etc coming in the network traffic between machines, BlackIce's IDS will
> instruct the firewall to block traffic from the other machine.
True, but just about any other software firewall will also "backup" the
router.
>
> To this day, I have a Win 2K laptop at work that is my primary VB
> development machine that I bring home and connect to the router so that I
> can VPN to the job's network on weekends. That machine has got a worm on
it
> that has defeated F-secure and I got F-Secure up and running again and the
> machine up and running to continue my work. I don't have time to have Tech
> Support rebuild it right now. I connect it to my network and watch
BlackIce
> on my other machines start to protect.
>
> Hey, that's it. And the facts are that no other firewall for the Windows
> Desktop can protect like that.
>
> Duane :)
>
> --
> The protection of the machine is a process and is not a given!
>
>
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