Re: Kazaa Block !
From: NeoSadist (neos@dist)
Date: 12/01/02
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From: "NeoSadist" <neos@dist> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 01:47:26 -0700
"mark henderson" <markch@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your interesting posts neosadist. I like your attitude.
>
> mch
>
>
> "NeoSadist" <neos@dist> wrote in message
> news:uug79l35lgp74@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "hazard" <platon@hazard.gr> wrote in message
> > news:as77rl$l4d$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr...
> > >
> > > > What the world?
> > > > Are you the net admin?
> > > > First off, if this is a work LAN, and you're the admin, uninstall
all
> > > KaZaA
> > > > from all computers and tell your boss what is going on: that this is
a
> > > mild
> > > > security breach, but worse, it is a blatant abuse of work computers.
> > > Then,
> > > > block all dynamic ports (1024-65535) both in and out, if you're
brave,
> > or
> > > > just re-setup the firewall to only allow in what you want in: i.e.
> http,
> > > > etc. If they don't need to download, you can safely disable ftp.
The
> > > best
> > > > method is block everything, then only allow what is absolutely
needed
> to
> > > do
> > > > their job. Period. No matter how old your users are at work, they
> will
> > > > always act like children -- they will try to get away with whatever
> they
> > > > can, somehow thinking that their work computer belongs to them.
Blame
> > > > Microsoft for starting the psychology of "MY documents", "MY email",
> "MY
> > > > music", etc lol.
> > > > If this is a home LAN, and these are your children, ground them
first,
> > > then
> > > > block KaZaA from their computers, using password protection and/or
> > windows
> > > > 2000 user priveleges. However, being a home LAN, there's not much
you
> > can
> > > > do, but security also isn't a big deal, although it should at least
be
> > > > implemented.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's the lan on the work. I have already blocked everything,
perimiting
> > only
> > > http and some https they need BUT the newest version of kazza have an
> > option
> > > which says that if the client can not connect on the specific port,
then
> > it
> > > goes over port 80. So, i'm trying to to figure if the client connects
> > first
> > > to a kazaa server (which port) and then to the other client to
> > > download/upload. On the firewall log i found only the rr1.kazaa.com on
> > port
> > > 80 which is the first page of kazaa and the the connections to the
other
> > > clients, all in port 80. The solution i provided with the ports 1214 &
> > 3306
> > > is working but after an hour or so it connects !!
> >
> > First off, remind the employees that these are not their computers. I
> don't
> > know the ports it uses, but block them all, then open only the ones you
> need
> > like port 80.
> > However, it's true that most programs can be reconfigured to use a
"blind"
> > proxy of port 80 with no proxy address.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Even if i uninstall the software, even if i tell it to my boss nothing
> > will
> > > happen. It's a software company, everyone here is a programmer or a
> > > marketing/sales etc man and only one IT person. They believe that the
IT
> > man
> > > is useless because he doesn't produce something and he doesn't brings
> > money
> > > to company. But he is responsible if the secretary pc is full of
viruses
> > and
> > > trojans, he is responsible if the mouse of another secretary doesn't
> work
> > > and other stupid things !!!
> > > So, i prefer to be the bad guy by blocking the ports/domains and not
be
> > the
> > > bad guy by uninstalling software and talking to boss.
> > > Sad but true....
> > >
> >
> > Remind them that you keep the company running because you prevent people
> > from destroying their work that's saved on YOUR computers.
> > If your boss won't listen and won't curb the employees, start looking
for
> a
> > job elsewhere. It's not nice to not have any control but then be the
one
> to
> > get hammered when the company gets hacked. Tell your boss too: that you
> > don't like being a puppet, which is what you are if you're responsible
but
> > not able to control it.
> > Also, uninstall the program from the win2k computer, and downgrade
> > everyone's accounts to restricted user ("User") instead of power user.
> > Then, go into control panel > administrative tools > local security
policy
> > and browse through it. Disable everyone except you (I can't remember
the
> > setting, but it's in there) from installing programs, and also set the
> > Unsigned driver and unsigned software rights to Disabled, that way they
> > can't install almost everything.
> > Also, be sure to delete their mp3's and krap like that, and clean up the
> > system registry. It's time consuming, but it can be done.
> > Also, look at incoming and outgoing web addresses, and block all the
file
> > sharing ones you can find (*.kazaa.com, *.gnutella.com, etc).
> > I sympathize for you, man. Wish I were on the team. I'm sadistic
enough
> > not to care if people hate me when I hack into their profile and prevent
> > them from doing just about anything.
> > OH! Another thing: you can prevent users from running certain programs
> > (www.regedit.com has the way to do it) by the program name. I'd add
> > "setup.exe" and whatever the executables are for kazaa to that list.
> Also,
> > adding "regedit.exe" to that list will prevent them from hacking into
> > things.
> > Also, role play. Pretend you're a dusgruntled, stupid employee, and go
> find
> > information on the net on how to hack through corporate security to use
> > Kazaa and other things. The info should be out there. This is like
> > "counter-security" stuff.
> >
> >
>
>
And I like yours. Got MSN? lol
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