Re: ISO anonymous proxy to get around firewall

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Date: 09/07/02 

Date: 7 Sep 2002 12:31:59 -0700

"NeoSadist" <ne0$@d1$t> wrote in message news:<univ1sj7d88qb7@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Anonymous" <Nobody> wrote in message
> news:kagcnukm0qkivjgklnn80ea7hbjsi664cj@4ax.com...
> > You are right of course. It was silly of me to presuppose that I was
> > dealing with a work situation involving Americans. By all means, the
> > employer's wishes should be followed to the letter and the fellow
> > should work diligently, peacefully and submissively to accomplish the
> > objectives of his superiors. Were he an American, of course, it would
> > radically change things. We loud proud boors discovered long ago that
> > if you surrender a fair amount of your privacy, free will and
> > individuality while at work, and you spend most of your life at work,
> > then you have surrendered a fair amount of your privacy, free will and
> > individuality for most of your life. With our companies treating us
> > like fine ebony slaves during this exhilarating recession, we are
> > compelled, many of us, to shake off our chains for a brief minute now
> > and then, to see what a free man sees, before accepting the shackles
> > once again. So I do apologize for my Americentrist attitude.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Jack (running a process off a USB flashreader I bring from home that
> > runs as a process called "SpreadsheetViewer" that tunnels nntp through
> > https to a distributed P2P web server network offsite, thus dancing
> > through my corporate firewall.)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:43:46 GMT, "mhicaoidh"
> > <mhic_aoidh@hotmail.NIX.com.SPAM> wrote:
> >
> > >Taking a moment's reflection, Anonymous mused:
> > >|
> > >| Um... steady, soldier. That there critter is a user, and they want
> > >| strange things sometimes, like the ability to get to frigging web
> > >| sites without being called a malicious hacker. Hoo-ah?
> > >
> > > Either way, this person has not taken the hint that the company that
> > >signs the paycheck doesn't want him browsing the web. Circumventing it,
> I
> > >believe, would constitute grounds for termination.
> > >
> >
> >
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> Actually, I hope that, when that d00d finds a way around his corporate
> firewall, he invites a hacker in, and is blamed for the security breach, and
> is fired and sued for damages. This IS America, so he has the right ... to
> go across the $%^&* street and use a public library computer. I'm sorry,
> but if he, or anyone else, doesn't have the self-control to obey his
> employer's wishes and/or sys admin's, they should go work at McDonald's like
> all the other morons who don't have self-control. To not have self-control
> is to be led about by your human nature -- i.e. to basically become no
> better than my pet cat.
> But why am I even bothering to reply? You're just a waste of my time
> and bandwidth. Get a life. It's time our general population grew up. When
> people were drafted in World War II (or voluntarily joined, whatever...),
> they didn't argue with the proper use of, say, a field radio. To not obey
> radio silence, in many cases, was to give away your position to the enemy,
> and to usually die as a result. Those that didn't get it usually paid the
> ultimate price.
> I know that's a broad comparison, and this isn't war, but in a sense it
> is. There are other nations, and even fellow Americans (imagine that!) that
> want to steal secrets and/or bank account numbers, etc. They're called
> hackers. Not all hackers are bad, but there are bad hackers. Anyways,
> that's life. Look around you. You don't just shut off your antivirus to
> "welcome other people's freedom" into your PC no more than you disable your
> firewall for the same reason. Protection exists for a purpose. We didn't
> just shut down our military thinking that peace would come as a result.
> But anyways, that's life. There is authority for a reason. Those who
> think that life would be good without authority haven't read history much.
> I'm not going to help him break rules and/or rebel against authority.
> This comes from someone who's military and has been to the desert
> (middle east) and served time, and I'm only 24. It's called life. Get a
> clue, learn your responsibilities. All people have an authority somewhere,
> and all people have responsibilities.
> For example, we had computers in the desert. We weren't allowed to use
> hotmail, yahoo, etc because that was 1 a security vulnerability and 2 would
> give away our location. Those who violated this suffered the consequences.
> Let's see what else happens to people who don't have self-control: they
> get STD's, even AIDS, from unsafe sex; they get fired from their job because
> they didn't obey the network policy and they were sued; they now owe $20K
> and the only place that will hire them is McDonald's; they get fired from
> there after a month because they didn't obey the rules and someone got sick
> from the food (unwashed hands, etc pick a way); they are on unemployment for
> a month or two but can't find a job so they become a bum on the street.
> There are so many scenarios.
> I think I've wasted enough of my time now. If you can't see the need
> for responsibility and self-control in your actions, whoever you are, you
> can become a social toilet like the rest.
>
> NeoSadist
> Vigilance is true power.

NeoSadist, just out of curiosity, how would using hotmail in the
desert give away your location? If you are using your system to
connect to any network, it would still send a signal, whether its
yahoo or some DOD network. Is it that while in the desert, you can't
send any signals at all. Or are you worried about the possibility
that someone would post a message with your location?

Anyway to the original question. If your firewall guy has done his
job, then there should be no way around it. But you may be able to
get to your server at home through legit accesses, but it depends on
how your network is setup. For example, my company allows users to
FTP outbound. I could setup an FTP server at home and be able to get
to it. But I would have to know more about your network.