Re: Need advice re (low end) firewall

From: glassgnost (dlindnerSPAMBLOCKED@socal.rr.com)
Date: 08/15/02


From: glassgnost <dlindnerSPAMBLOCKED@socal.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:47:07 GMT

Greg Hennessy wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:38:35 GMT, "PWLFE" <pjw75@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>We have one server that sits (wide open) on the internet running IIS
>
>
> That was a really silly thing to do.
>
>
>>It is
>>not connected to any other network. The info on it is not that sensitive,
>>and we don't care who sees it or deletes it.
>
>
> Its business related materiel. Does your customers know that your treat
> their information in this cavalier manner ?
>
>
>
>> What we DO care about is the
>>bandwidth that the pirates have sucked up. I found in the recycler folder a
>>folder that had 2gb worth of pirated DVD files.
>
>
> You are aware of the potential legal grief you are letting yourself in for
> ?
>
>
>>As far as I know, I pretty much have to format the box, re install and re
>>patch to current MS / IIS security standards.
>
>
> The MS baseline security analyser is your friend.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/tools/Tools/MBSAhome.asp
>
> http://www.systemexperts.com/win2k/HardenWin2K.html
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechnol/iis/tips/iis5chk.asp
>
>
>
>>I also need to put some sort
>>of firewall in place to allow ONLY HTTP to and from this box. It is used to
>>take surveys anonymously. (single application) I would like to use a
>>software firewall (inexpensive) vs an appliance if possible.
>
>
> Dont.
>
> The key to decent security is defence in depth.
> This means a
> hardware firewall +
> host based IDS on the server +
> a connection back to your LAN so it can tell you its under assault +
> (if you are really paranoid a local security policy on the win2k box using
> the inbuilt packet filtering) +
> enabling admin terminal services so you can login remotely and do something
> about it.
>
> At the very minimum.
>
> The hostbased IDS bit is easy. Use the server version of BID.
>
> http://www.iss.net/products_services/hsoffice_protection/blkice_protect_server.php
>
>
> Firewall wise, depending on your level of expertise. The options are rich
> and varied. A firewall appliance of some sort is essential. No moving parts
> == more uptime.
>
> At the very minimum a cisco pix 501 or Netscreen 5xp and run a VPN from
> your network in to manage/communicate with the server.
>
> A 3 interface appliance with a leg directly connected to your LAN would be
> a lot better and less hassle to setup.

I agree except on one major point: If you don't need to connect it to
anything other than the net, keep it isolated. Run your files over on cdrom.

Assuming that you're on a budget (and since you consider it's content
trivial), just turn on the IP filters, deny all inbound but port 80 -
maybe even unbind netbios from the nic (keep it on the loopback) - get a
cheap soho firewall to drop malformed packets. A second-hand webramp or
similar should run you about $20 or so on ebay.

If you go second-hand, I suggest dumping the firmware and reloading it
with an image from a trusted source before putting it into production.

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