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From: GuitarMann (tgm4@le.ac.uk)Date: 06/19/02
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From: "GuitarMann" <tgm4@le.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:20:01 +0100
But IBM are now several companies, and not so much of a threat to other
corporations (at least not as much as microsoft) and as I remember microsoft
pulled one off on IBM...
"John G" <greentest@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> Oh! how the wheel has turned.
> In a time before a lot of you can remember, IBM was the villain, now you
are
> touting it as the saviour from Microsoft.
>
> John G.
> "Osama Bin KENOBi" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
> news:2e7jgukr2urnhq5uk2vase7nhpigep600t@4ax.com...
> > The world has lost faith in Micro$oft. Most people have now realized
> > that the seemingly never-ending problems caused by this viral
> > operating system are the direct result of Micro$oft's marketing
> > strategy and shady business practices, and can be easily avoided. The
> > very core design of windoze was based not on the best design for the
> > user, but on the best design for Micro$oft's business.
> >
> > To put it simply, Micro$oft just cannot be trusted, Micro$oft products
> > will never work properly because Micro$oft doesn't want them to...
> >
> > German gov deal offers Linux great leap forward in Europe
> > By John Lettice
> > The Register / R.A.G.U.N.S.
> >
> > Yesterday's announcement of a Linux-based cooperation agreement
> > between IBM and Germany's ministry of the interior changes the rules
> > of the game dramatically. Microsoft still has deals with the German
> > government, and will undoubtedly still sell software to it and to
> > Germany's states, but the territory covered by the agreement and the
> > terms used by minister of the interior Otto Schily signal that Linux
> > has already won the server war in principle, and that the German
> > government intends it to do so in practice.
> >
> > The deal initially covers the sale of IBM systems including eServer
> > hardware running SuSE Linux to federal, state and local government in
> > Germany. This helps IBM and SuSE, obviously, but in long term they're
> > unlikely to be the only ones, as Schily's goals included raising "the
> > level of IT security by avoiding monocultures," and he is of the view
> > that the agreement will help the federal, state and local governments
> > by allowing them to acquire open source products "quickly, easily and
> > without complication."
> >
> > The agreement also calls for IBM to and the German government to
> > create "innovative and reusable IT solutions for the federal
> > administration," while IBM will be setting up an open source portal
> > and providing support services.
> >
> > Microsoft has been making optimistic noises about its existing
> > contracts with the German government, along with rather sour ones
> > about the German government allegedly ignoring its own studies which
> > (equally allegedly) "showed" that Microsoft software was superior both
> > technically and on price. The reality, however, is that Microsoft's
> > dominant position in client software, and its challenger status in
> > server software is pretty much the same in Germany as it is in the
> > rest of the world. At this stage the question for government is
> > whether it does as Microsoft says and standardises on Windows at the
> > server end too, or whether it looks to see if there's another game in
> > town.
> >
> > Germany seems not only to have decided to go with the latter but to
> > make it its business to to help turn it into a convincing game. Oh,
> > and by the way, the German studies we've seen tend to give points to
> > Linux for servers while concluding it's not ready yet at the client
> > end, so we suspect Microsoft of fuzzy survey interpretation.
> >
> > Overall, the combination of government resources and IBM's government
> > and corporate solutions expertise could be deadly, threatening
> > Microsoft with a virtually complete lockout at the lucrative back-end
> > of German administration. This isn't something a cash-strapped and
> > resource-starved operation like SuSE (or even Red Hat) could do on its
> > own at this juncture, so the deal is potentially a massive leap for
> > Linux into the government/commercial arena.
> >
> > It'll also give credibility to Linux elsewhere in Europe, where there
> > is considerable chafing over the cost implications of Microsoft's
> > Licensing 6.0, and over 'security issues' associated with Windows
> > (Schily, tellingly, says September 11 was one of his considerations in
> > striking the deal). It's a little close to the Licensing 6.0 deadline
> > for people of to jump just on the basis of what IBM and the German
> > government say they're going to do, but it's starting to look less
> > like a leap into the dark.
>
>
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