Re: Website Hacking Attempt - letting the IP Block owners know?

From: chris@nospam.com
Date: 06/29/02


From: chris@nospam.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:33:37 -0700

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 08:59:40 -0400, Jim Patrick <jpatrick@shentel.net>
wrote:

>In comp.security.misc, chris@nospam.com wrote:
>
>> Jim Patrick wrote:
>>>... Be interesting to see
>>>what the drop would be if you installed a "probe? block address" on
>>>all the servers. A block that lasts until the lease expires combined
>>>with a timed block on the computer name would be reasonably effective
>>>as a starting point.
>
>>And voila you create another potential DOS attack where the attacker
>>sends spoofed probes with addresses of legitimate customers.
>
>You can do that from login? Perhaps I'm naive, but the suggestion
>was made because on a campus the IT owns everything. Every server,
>every router, everything. Unless I remember incorrectly, it means the
>campus owns the real addresses too.

Perhaps, I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you meant setting
up something on the receiving server that would block all traffic from
an IP once a probe was detected from that IP.

Now, I think you meant at the campus level, block outgoing traffic
from an IP that appears to have sent a probe out.

I think in either case, it'd be possible to denial-of-service attack
someone by causing their IP address to get blocked. It's pretty easy
to forge packets.

Or am I still way off base?



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