Re: Blackice behind NAT'ed system

From: Shortly (th1nkhowmanydays@hotmail.com)
Date: 05/21/02


From: th1nkhowmanydays@hotmail.com (Shortly)
Date: 20 May 2002 18:22:47 -0700

spaminator@knology.net (Larry W4CSC) wrote in message news:<3ce84ce7.45469096@news.knology.net>...
> On 19 May 2002 13:31:45 -0700, th1nkhowmanydays@hotmail.com (Shortly)
> wrote:
>
> >> >Is it possible to configure blackice to run as a backup behind a
> >> >hardware firewall? (NAT/SPI)
> >>
> >> If you are behind NAT, the only reason you'd need a software firewall
> >> is if you don't trust the kids on their computer on your LAN. NAT is
> >> fully safe. Run a good anti-virus like Norton Anti-Virus to keep them
> >> from installing servers on your computer like SubSeven or the latest
> >> worm fashion, uninstall Outlook Express and Windows Scripting Host
> >> (visual basic scripting), turn off javascript and ActiveX in the
> >> browsers, and you're very safe on the net......
> >>
> > What do you do if you have other room mates on the internal that are
> >DOS'ing the internal ip addresses?
>
> DOS, as in denial of service?? I'd simply pull their plugs from the
> router if they screwed me......(c;
> >
> > How do you uninstall OE6? and WinScriptHost/java/activex?
>
> Which OS you gots? You don't want to disable JAVA.....but you DO want
> to disable javascripting, which is a whole different ball game. At
> least make javascripting ASK you for permission. Javascripting and
> ActiveX are in the options setup - Custom Security settings of
> Internet Explorer.....similar in Netscrape if you use it. In IE you
> have the option of disable, enable or prompt (which makes it ask your
> permission before running javascripts and will drive you nuts asking).
> I use Opera's latest encantation as my safety browser with it all shut
> off, permanently, for general browsing....then I use IE in Medium
> Safety mode (default) for browsing sites I HAVE to trust, like
> WindowsUPdate.micro$oft.com.......
>
> As for Windows Scripting Host and Outlook Express, they are
> uninstalled by unchecking them in the Windows Setup tab of ADD/REMOVE
> Programs in Win98/ME. Not sure where they hid them in XP, sorry. I
> don't use copy protected softwares here. Be sure you get all the
> emails you want to save off of Outlook Express before uninstalling it.
> You'll lose them all if you don't.
>
> To replace OE, I recommend Pegasus 4 from:
> http://www.tucows.com/preview/194175.html
> Sorry, I don't know if it works under XP or not. It's not listed on
> tucows. Pegasus 4 is the latest version of one of the oldest-running
> pieces of internet email freeware on the planet. No adware, no funny
> business. I can't believe he gives such fine software away for free.
> It never crashes running 24/7 under Win98SE here....
>
> For text-based newsgroups, like this one, I recommend Free Agent from:
> http://www.tucows.com/preview/195230.html
> Again, not sure about XP's queerness. Free Agent is stable, free and
> works great for text-based news....it's all you need for here.
>
> For usenet binaries, I recommend two programs for different
> applications. If you want to just strip all the binaries off a
> newsgroup, assemble them and store them on disk while you're gone
> away....get SB News, a robot for $20. It's from:
> http://www.tucows.com/preview/195235.html
> If you like MP3 music, SB Newsbot is fantastic! Just select the
> directory you want it to store stuff in, select the newsgroups of the
> genre you like, and click CONNECT.....Newsbot will strip every
> complete file off that newsgroup, assemble it in its own temp storage,
> keep it if the file isn't complete until it is, then store the results
> on the directory you told it to. It remembers where it left off when
> it ran out of files today.....so it can start there when you turn it
> back on to this newsgroup, tomorrow. It will finish one newsgroup on
> the list, then go on to the next one on the list until it runs out of
> list.....without crashing, crashing Windows, no matter what happens!
> If you're on a dialup, and get hung up on, Newsbot is RELENTLESS! It
> redials in until the damned thing connects....it NEVER takes NO for an
> answer! If the server dies while it's downloading, no problem. It
> knows exactly which byte it needs to complete what its doing and will
> continue to relentlessly try to connect to the damned server until it
> answers....then picks right back up where it left off without losing a
> bit. I like it because I like to hear NEW types of music I would have
> never downloaded if I had to pick the files, myself, ad nauseum. You
> don't HAVE to mark ANYTHING in the group.....it just does it. That's
> really nice. If you don't like what some jerk posts, or any other
> field that repeats, you can LOCKOUT any header field string....like
> the loader's bogus address, name, a string in the Subject field, etc.
> If you don't want to get hawaiian music, lockout the word "hawaiian"
> in Subject and it will lock everything out with that word in it.
> You'll soon lockout the duplicate file keywords..... When you get
> time (or when you get disk full errors...hee hee...which is often on
> broadband) just go through the directory and listen to the files (or
> watch the dirty movies you devil you) and delete any you don't
> like.....then store the rest to CDR before you run out of disk space
> again!....
>
> I also recommend XNews for binaries when you WANT to chose which files
> to download. Xnews is free from:
> http://www.tucows.com/preview/195237.html
> Xnews is COMPLICATED, but very great code. There is a LEARNING to use
> it. Lots of features are buried and you'll need to read the docs on
> his webpage, carefully. But, man is it a GREAT binary
> decoder/assembler/storer of usenet binary files.
>
> AFter I had a conversation with SB News' author, he incorporated the
> new Yenc decoder into his software. Yenc works great and is much
> faster than UUE. 13,800 lines of UUE in a part of a large binary is
> only 4400 lines or so in Yenc....loading up that disk faster and
> making it much easier on the uploaders sending you the free stuff.
> Xnews supports it all and is kept very up-to-date by its author.
>
> Hmm...Leroy Anderson is over. Lemme load up Winamp (2.5c before AOL
> bought 'em up and put a spy in it) with some of this English big band
> stuff from the 1930's.....(c; I collect old stuff from Edison's first
> cylinder to the end of the big bands in the mid 50's to the recent
> resurgence of swing coming out of Californicate! Love that SWING!
>
>
>
>
>
> Larry

Thanks for your response. Yeah. People on the internal lan like to
port scan my pc with somethin' called RETINA and NMAP for weaknesses.
Then I get BSOD. Any suggestions?

I am running XP Pro. Why is OE so dangerous? (btw, i like the pegasus
4 application. how is it safer than oe6?)

I thought my antivirus would stop all malicious java scritpings, etc.
I guess I'll just have to turn everything off, and not enjoy java.



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