Re: Firewall for Network

From: keezdriver (NOTda.THISkeezdriver@STUFFverizon.net)
Date: 04/25/02


From: keezdriver <NOTda.THISkeezdriver@STUFFverizon.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:30:09 GMT

Duane Arnold wrote:

> I understand what you are saying. My previous setup before I got the
> router
> was using MS ICS with one computer connected to the cable modem, the
> second
> network card with MS ICS turned on connected to the hub. My second
> computer
> was connected to the hub. All network cards using DHCP. I was able to go
> out to the Internet using the second computer.
>
> Now I unplug everything form the router and plug them into computer and
> hub, now the second machine can't go. It's being stopped by InsightBB with
> message saying register this second computer. That's the same message my
> friend is getting when he does the same thing with the hub. Now I told him
> I got around this because I have a router and can clone the nic MAC
> address form the computer that was first hooked to the ISP.
>
> Now, if there is some software that is going to mask the nic MAC address
> of that second machine from Insightbb that he can install, what is it?
>
>
>
>
> "keezdriver" <NOTda.THISkeezdriver@STUFFverizon.net> wrote in message
> news:AXAx8.28278$uV.5364@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>> Duane Arnold wrote:
>>
>> > I know about MS ICS. What I didn't need is a smart remark from you.
>> > And since ISP(s) are starting to home in on more then one computer
>> > using ICS without additional IP(S) and not using a router, I was
>> > curious. I was
> just
>> > trying to get some info to help a friend who is trying to find a way
> with
>> > out using a router.
>> >
>> > If NAT can block the ISP from seeing the MAC address of addition
> computers
>> > sharing one IP great.
>> >
>> > Some of you people out here are terrible with your arrogance.
>> >
>> > Duane
>> >
>> > "keezdriver" <NOTda.THISkeezdriver@STUFFverizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Hzqx8.6414$d96.3809@nwrddc04.gnilink.net...
>> >> Duane Arnold wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I couldn't resist. Is AT&T your ISP or some other ISP using AT&T as
> the
>> >> > backbone network? If any of this is true, have you purchased
>> > additional
>> >> > IP(s) for the other computers. If you have not purchased additional
>> > IP(s)
>> >> > using AT&T, then I would certainly like to know how you are doing
>> > Internet
>> >> > Connection sharing, without a router.
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope I am not out of line here I just want to know.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Chris" <chris95008@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:a9vi5a$826$1@localhost.localdomain...
>> >> >> We have a cable modem on one computer and allow the other computers
> on
>> >> >> our
>> >> >> network to share the internet connection. I have tried using
>> >> >> zonealarm on the computer with the cable modem but it doesn't allow
>> >> >> the other computers
>> >> >> to see the internet. I could remove zonealarm from the computer
> with
>> > the
>> >> >> cable modem and install it on each computer on our network but that
>> >> >> leaves
>> >> >> the computer connected to the internet vulnerable. Is there a
> setting
>> > in
>> >> >> zonealarm or another firewall program that would allow all
>> >> >> computers to
>> >> > have
>> >> >> firewall protection. Ideally the computer on the cable modem would
> be
>> >> >> the only one with the firewall and the other computers underneath
>> >> >> it on the network would be protected as well.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Chris
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> There are several commercial products that do NAT and Windows ICS also
>> > does
>> >> NAT, to the ISP it is only one computer accessing the net. If you are
>> > truly
>> >> an IT person you would know that.
>> >> --
>> >> Michael T
>> >> Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him!
>> >> Then again, neither did a lot of other people.
>> >> Linux User #228869 on Machine #147583
>> You are the one claiming to be the IT professional, the question you are
>> asking is an extremly simple question. If you are truely a pro you SHOULD
>> know know that using connection sharing is only connecting from one NIC
>> thus only one MAC address shows to the ISP. Every thing sent to the net
>> will be masked using NAT (network address translation). If your lan
>> computer 192.168.0.2 accesses the internet thru your ICS server at
>> 192.168.0.1 then as far as the ISP is concerned the request came from the
>> server. If you have a hardware firewall and multiple IPs from your ISP
>> you might not be using NAT but all software ICS that I know of use NAT.
>> HTH
>> --
>> Michael T
>> Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him!
>> Then again, neither did a lot of other people.
>> Linux User #228869 on Machine #147583
The ISP is seeing the second NIC? How is that computer connecting to the
ISP? Thru the first compter? or through a hub connected to the modem?

-- 
Michael T
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him!
Then again, neither did a lot of other people.
Linux User #228869 on Machine #147583



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