Re: SHOULD I PROTECT MY FIREWALLS FIREWALL WITH A FIREWALL?

From: Joe Bloggs (stuSpam-art@excite.com)
Date: 02/07/02


From: Joe Bloggs <stuSpam-art@excite.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:43:00 +0100


Redviper wrote:

> Did you look at the FAQ? It was laced with venom towards anything MS. He
> suggested Linux as an option I recall. While from all accounts Linux
> appears to be a fine OS and has more that one option for interaction, it
> still isn't ideal for the contemporary user and has very little out-of-box
> support for the apps that sell. You say that for the most part, a firewall
> isn't warranted. By who's account? A firewall is, I think, a prudent
> choice. The watch word here, and I thought I made this plain, is CHOICE.
> We're not talking about from a "software engineering" point of view, this
> is, for the most part, Joe Sixpack we're talking about. My experience has
> been that most new PC owners can handle a bit more piece of mind and with
> reasonable of effort, quickly develop the experience needed to determine
> their needs. It seems unfair and elitist to infer that it's paranoid, as if
> a healthy dose of paranoia isn't a good thing, to want to protect your
> machine. In the 20+ years I've bought, built and configured my machines,
> I've had exactly one virus (Whale). Statiscally, I shouldn't even bother
> staying code and signature current, but I do, fanatically. If someone pulls
> up a 80 line FAQ, especially if it reads like a political manifesto, that
> says I'm stupid for being this diligent, I won't agree. Just so you'll
> know, I'm a Network Support (N+ and A+) tech for 4 years and a mainframe
> operator for 12 years prior to that.
>
> > The best security is to unplug the network cable. Simplify, don't
> obfuscate.
>
> Indeed the BEST computer security would be to not own one. However, almost
> half of the US population, and more every day, have made another choice.
> Computers and their connections to the increasingly indispensable internet
> are only going to get MORE complex.

OK... let me give you a nice easy scenario... Take one machine (a) (486 or
above) Take one copy of MSWindows95 (b) (inc IE) and a modem (d)...

1) Install software (b) onto machine (a)...
2) Remove all but basic TCP/IP and Dial Up Networking (Do not install File and
Print Sharing cos then it gets real complicated!)
3) Install modem (d) and configure your DUN to dial your local free ISP...

OK... points to be made..

i) You now have a "secure" connection to the internet.
ii) Provided you now download a "good" virus software you should be safe from
downloading trojans and virii
iii) Some people might worry about malicious java etc but htis is preference I
think... Java is not as deadly as people make it out to be and if in doubt set
the security tab in your IE to high...
iv) Learn a few basic commands such as netstat -an - if you check this on a
regular basis you should get a feel for it... after installing any software
recheck it and see if your sat listening on a port that was never there
before...

Get the idea?

Now please explain to me how a Personal firewall would benefit this machine?



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