Re: WinRoute Pro
From: L. Walker (k_aneda@yahoo.com)Date: 02/03/02
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From: "L. Walker" <k_aneda@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:44:45 +1100
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Under Settings->Advanced->Misc. Info, you can set how long packets stay in
the NAT table for I believe.
Defaults are 40 minutes for TCP, 8 for UDP. Either that or I changed my
settings and believe they're default now :P And the test I did was with
one client + gateway, so I definetly didn't eat up the table limit of
1400.
Yeh, packet logging shows some nice information but other times the
logging in Winroute frustrates me, so I bring in tcpdump and use a linux
box to dial-in. However I have found that under Debug Info, showing the
information for DNS packets is quite a good little tool... :P
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L. Walker
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If one wants to be a policeman, one must learn how to be a thief.
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That's why we spend so much time trying to understand our own
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interesting.
-- Kaji, Evangelion Ep 18
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, bargepole wrote:
> I think Winroute unloads the connection from its NAT table so quickly
> because it's designed to share a limited resource among many users. There's
> a limit of 1400 table entries, so the quicker one is removed, the faster
> it's available to other users.
> As you've shown, it's so quick to purge its table that the reply packets
> from a previously connected host are unrecognized.
>
> I read somewhere that Tiny refers to the Settings>Advanced>Security Options
> as a "wizard", intended as a quick and easy way to setup firewall response
> in a general way. Using packet filter rules with logging offers far more
> granularity in determining what is to be logged. Personally, I prefer
> logging on filter rules, one reason being that each detection uses only 1
> line, rather than 2, at the expense of slightly less information (packet
> length).
>
> If you have a catchall packet filter rule, maybe you could try turning
> logging on and turn off the logging in Security Options.
> For example:
> Incoming
> Internet Interface
> ...
> Drop IP Any host -> Any host Log
>
> This may give you what you want, filling your logs at half the rate. Of
> course, you could be more selective by adding individual rules for specific
> protocols (ICMP, IGMP, TCP, UDP, etc.)
>
> "L. Walker" <k_aneda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0202031145410.674-100000@myst.puzzle...
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> > I am sharing the internet using WinRoute Pro 4.1.27 and
> > turned on the following log features:
> >
> > Log incoming packets that have no record in the NAT table [All]
> >
> > Normally I had it on SYN packets only but realised that it would be handy
> > to pick up on ACK scans, etc.
> >
> > Since having the new logging settings, I have noticed odd things...
> > Using diagram:
> >
> > Webserver <---> Gateway with Winroute <---> Client
> >
> > I think I was able to work it out this far, but I thought I'd ask to see
> > what you people on the newsgroup think.
> >
> > Whenever client uses a webbrowser (only tested with Internet Explorer and
> > Outlook Express), when the connection is torn down from the client side
> > (send fin ack/ack packet, im a bit rusty with TCP... correct me if im
> > wrong please), the connection drops out of the NAT table... and then the
> > server sends a ACK packet back and since the connection is dropped from
> > the NAT table it lists it as a "incoming packet with no entry in the NAT
> > table".
> >
> > Side note: Another thing I noticed was that masqueraded packets always had
> > a source port (from the gateway/NAT box doing the masquerading) of above
> > 61000, this helps to filter out the packets when going thru large logs...
> >
> > This is filling up my logs and is becoming rather annoying... anyone got a
> > workaround, apart from logging only incoming SYN packets that have no
> > record in the NAT table...
> >
> > Small excerpt from log while browsing yahoo.com:
> >
> > 11:54:27 NAT: Detected TCP packet which has no entry in the NAT table....
> > 11:54:27 NAT: + proto:TCP, len:54, ip+port:216.115.102.78:80 ->
> > 203.19.xxx.xxx:61498, flags: FIN ACK...
> > 11:54:30 NAT: Detected TCP packet which has no entry in the NAT table....
> > 11:54:30 NAT: + proto:TCP, len:1514, ip+port:216.115.102.78:80 ->
> > 203.19.xxx.xxx:61498, flags: ACK...
> >
> > - --
> > L. Walker
> > IRC: K_aneda @ AustNET, #rna
> > - --
> > If one wants to be a policeman, one must learn how to be a thief.
> > - --
> > That's why we spend so much time trying to understand our own
> > motivations and those of others. That's what makes life so
> > interesting.
> > -- Kaji, Evangelion Ep 18
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