Re: CheckPoint 4.1 vs. NG

From: Cap (chc_landlord@yahoo.com)
Date: 01/31/02 

From: chc_landlord@yahoo.com (Cap)
Date: 31 Jan 2002 07:46:08 -0800

Just because you can't get your fat consultant-ass laid doesn't mean
you gotta be a prick in a newsgroup.

1. I didn't fucking hire them.
I'm a consultant for this company on another project that dovetails
with this one.

2. if you knew what you were doing, you'd have known what version of
FW1 runs on which IPSO. Sounds like typical consultant behavior...
*** it up, bill more to fix it.

3. Just answer the god damn question or shut the hell up.

"Curt Edsall" <cedsall@aol.com> wrote in message news:<bg468.16823$8d1.6617564@news1.rdc1.md.home.com>...
> "Cap" <chc_landlord@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9cf42334.0201301601.4402148f@posting.google.com...
> > WE've got a consulting firm coming to install a new Nokia. We just
> > realized they were planning on putting 4.1 on, instead of NG.
> >
>
> And you hired them why?
>
> > Is there any reason to not go with NG? They hemmed and hawed about
> > how it was new, and not tested, and there'd be issues, blah blah blah.
> > I think they're blowing smoke up our ****
> >
>
> And you hired them why?
>
> > It seems to me NG would be a better choice, but perhaps there are
> > issues with it... anybody experiencing any "issues" with NG?
> >
>
> You hire a consultant at $125 an hour (or whatever you're paying) and come
> to Usenet looking for advice.
>
> Really, if you think they are not giving you your money's worth, fire them.
>
> Are there any reasons to stay with 4.1? Well, let's see...
>
> You bought 4.1.
>
> NG doesn't have any new features you need in your network.
>
> The Nokia came with 4.1 installed.
>
> There actually are "issues" with NG (never used it, can't comment one
> way or the other).
>
> Some other perfectly sane reason.
>
> I did a Nokia upgrade (IPSO and Checkpoint) for a client about a year ago.
> In and out in 45 minutes.
>
> The next day my manager shows me a message from the client who was
> "concerned" because I didn't seem to know what I was doing (of course he
> didn't seem to have the intestinal fortitude to express his "concerns" to my
> face (or to do the upgrade himself for that matter)).
>
> After I had upgraded the IPSO (and before I did the FW-1 upgrade) I did an
> fwstart and the firewall didn't start up so I said "Looks like the old
> firewall version won't run on this IPSO release." and this guy thinks I
> don't know what I'm doing. Notice it didn't cause him to stop me completing
> the job.
>
> Please excuse my arrogance but I guess I'm a little thin skinned from
> clients who are just certain their consultants know less than they do.
>
> If you think your consultants are blowing smoke up your ***, get some new
> consultants. Or, (of course) you could always do the work yourself...