Re: Is Norton/Liveupdate spyware?

From: sponge (mtubi@python.net)
Date: 01/19/02


From: mtubi@python.net (sponge)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 23:08:58 GMT


 I assume you mean privacy.net. If you passed the cookie test you're
very well protected against browser data leakage. That's all
privacy.net or any of the zillions of proxy testers test. But, it's
very important. As long as you have ActiveX and Java disabled in your
browser (and Javascript as well in your email program) you're pretty
safe against most browser nasties. As long as you run Ad-Aware on a
regular basis, you should be fine.
 As always, I recommend using DNSKong (or at least HOSTS) as a hedge
against defeating any spyware already on your system or against new
kinds of malware before they get the chance to leak anything. But,
you've got a pretty good, safe setup.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:19:30 GMT, BrownPuppy@juno.com (BrownPuppy)
wrote:

>Thanks for the info. I went to privacy.com and their analysis of my
>computer was that very little info gets out, except my IP address,
>which is not static. I never accept any cookies. How vulnerable am
>I?
>On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 04:27:03 GMT, mtubi@python.net (sponge) wrote:
>
>> Plenty. Your cache only holds a tiny bit of what information there is
>>about you. Most true spyware logs where you go online, how long you
>>spend, and what information you input. I often has a unqiue number,
>>called a GUID, assigned to your particular installation, than can be
>>backtraced with any registration information or anything else the
>>spyware passes along.
>> With that said, I don't think Norton's is spyware in the traditional
>>sense: Norton's is a respectable company with too much to lose if they
>>got involved directly in spyware. If they did -- once it was
>>discovered -- it would almost certainly make mainstream media news.
>>And probably would make the national section of the newspaper, not
>>just be buried in the technology section.
>> As far as who Norton's contacts, it may contact Symantec for
>>authentication and Akamai for the actual downloads. However, given
>>Akamai's position in the data-collection/mining/warehousing market,
>>Norton's may unwittingly have allowed Akamai to profile it's
>>customers, at least to some degree. It would be smarter for
>>Norton/Symantec to handle updates directly rather than farm it out to
>>a company with ties to spyware and the destruction of privacy and
>>security.
>>
>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:20:01 GMT, BrownPuppy@juno.com (BrownPuppy)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.webhancer.com/documents/wH_customer.pdf
>>>What if you cleared your cache before using Live Update? What
>>>information could they possibly get? Other than your IP address and a
>>>few other pieces of useless information?
>>>
>>
>
>



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