Re: 99.9 % of Software/Hardware Firewalls DO-NOT.....

From: Sick&Tired (lililmanlilii@yahoo.com)
Date: 12/29/01 

From: lililmanlilii@yahoo.com (Sick&Tired)
Date: 29 Dec 2001 06:55:37 -0800

"Christian Altenbach" <caltenba@ucla.edu.invalid> wrote in message news:<a0j479$ir7$1@persian.noc.ucla.edu>...
> "Sick&Tired" <lililmanlilii@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e85c6e9a.0112281241.3722807d@posting.google.com...
> >
> > You need to RE-READ my post.
> >
> > Please don't put words in my mouth.
> >
> > If you want to lookup those PROTOCOLS, IP ADDRESSES and the like,
> > please feel free to do so. Like I STATED, 99.9% Firewalls DO-NOT
> > PROPERLY BLOCK THESE THINGS, THEN ASK FOR PERMISSION. ALSO, IF
> > YOU LOOKUP THOSE PROTOCOLS, AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO BY AN
> > EXTREMELY TALENTED HACKER, YOU WILL SEE THE LIGHT.
> >
> > On another note, most people question, before they look things
> > up for themselves. Maybe you should do more research before
> > commenting on subjects that make you question others posts.
> >
> > I gave the KEY, now go find the door that it belongs to.....
>
> Come on, you should be able to do better than that!
>
> Patrick made quite a few valid points. Why would looking up protocols help
> understand your paranoid ramblings. Most computers don't have services that
> listen on rare protocols and any such packet gets simply dropped. There is
> no vulnerability to exploit. Protocols and ports are 100% safe if they are
> not serviced, only listening services can be exploited and only if known a
> weakness exists.
>
> There is no need to block reserved addresses, because it is equally easy to
> spoof any legal address for the same purpose (e.g. DoS attack). If the
> cracker needs a real-time response back, he needs a valid return address
> unless he has direct wire access to your immediate subnet.
>
> Cheers
> C.

Then maybe you should not worry about "My Ramblings" then.....

Tell the audiance here that you think that "ALL FIREWALLS" know how
to handle "ALL KNOWN & UNKNOWN PROTOCOLS" in your own words.

Now, go tell that to a skilled hacker.....

Weaknesses do not need to be known.....just probed for.

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