Re: M$ attack on Common Sense
From: Floyd Davidson (floyd_at_barrow.com)
Date: 09/13/03
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Date: 13 Sep 2003 12:41:12 -0800
macquigg@ece.arizona.edu (Dave) wrote:
>Alan Connor <alanconnor@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<JvD8b.1193$UN4.242@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
...
>> Enjoy your vociferous mediocrity and go bore someone else spitless.
>>
>
>Alan,
>
>If you *are* trying to advocate Linux here, this is
>counter-productive.
It makes no difference what Alan thinks he is doing, the best
advice for you (and again, this is almost regardless of what you
are doing too) is to ignore him. Unless you want to play, of
course. He is fun to tweek! (I'm sure of it, he's killfiled me
3 times now... ;-)
>I'm a typical user in the process of making the
>transition from Windows to Linux, and one of the factors accelerating
>my progress is the existence of a large and helpful community. See
>for example http://forums.delphiforums.com/linux4all/start
>
>I liked your previous post better, where you stated your reasons for
>disliking Windows. You might want to check out the latest version
>(XP). M$ has made some real progress on some of the issues on your
>list (stability for one).
Fine. If you want to advocate Winodws, you should probably drop
the crossposting to Linux groups. Likewise if you want to advocate
Linux, dump the Windows groups.
>If you enjoy flaming, do it with humor, and make it brief. Then
>follow up with something substantive. I can tolerate flames. It's
>the ratio of flame to useful communication that bothers me.
Well... if its flaming you like... you certainly are going about
it correctly! (I just don't see anything relating to "useful
communications"...)
>I must say that the Windows advocates seem to be "winning" this
>debate, although still not convincing me that I shouldn't move to
>Linux.
That's a bit of a contradiction.
>The key issue for me is security.
End of story. There is no point in continueing, because there
is no debate. You want a unix based system. The only question
now is which unix.
>My limited experience and
>reading tells me that Linux is *currently* more secure, and *may* have
>some fundemental security advantages, stemming from its multi-user
>origin and open-source methodology. I fully expect M$ to make further
>progress in security. I don't *think* Linux security will be a
>problem in the future, but the discussion here does give me plenty to
>worry about.
Why would you expect Microsoft to make progress in that area? Will
they make more money if they do? No? (Then they won't.)
>M$ OS's are here to stay. My wife still uses DOS to run her
>veterinary practice!
That is proof positive that Microsoft does *not* need to do anything
right in order to get customers.
>Success for Linux is not in crushing M$, but
>getting a large enough community of users that we will have all the
>applications we need, and they will be just as good as M$ products.
That I fully agree with. And of course Linux has been
successful in those terms since late 1992 or early 1993 in my
book. Some might say really that didn't happen until v 1.0 came
out, but I certainly wouldn't have traded Linux for anything
Microsoft had in January of 1993. That, btw, is when I gave up
ATT's System V and moved to Linux.
-- Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@barrow.com
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