Re: Friday night, again - NSA wiretap

base60 wrote:

responder wrote:
President Bush's political adviser well knows the "news cycle", and
that news on Friday night is the least noticed of all. Again, the news
they do not want read is released on a Friday night.

The NSA wiretap issue is important primarily because there is no
oversight, there are no checks and balances. There is no apparent
appeal.
The abuses possible were known almost three decades ago when the FISA
statute was passed and signed into US law.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061014/pl_nm/security_eavesdropping_dc;_ylt=A0SOwk_LqTBFYOYAdRd34T0D;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-10-14T061737Z_01_N13432987_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-EAVESDROPPING.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-newsOne-5

Look at the faces of the people in the pictures on these pages. They
are my face. They should be all of your faces.

ACLU wanks,

"WordNet (r) 2.0"
wank
n : slang terms for masturbation syn: jacking off, jerking
off, hand job
v : get sexual gratification through self-stimulation syn:
masturbate,
*** off, she-bop, jack off, jerk off

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanker

founded by avowed communists/socialists, and some other

I didn't know those were their affiliations, and you didn't support that
assertion. I will ignore that unsupported assertion.

I don't know what that has to do with the substance (if any) of your
message. I don't know what that has to do with security. Would your
opinion of warrantless wiretaps be different if they were being conducted
without oversight by "avowed communists/socialists" ?

similar sorts who look like career whiners a' la that pathetic cow
hanging about Crawford, TX.

If you are referring to anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, then perhaps
"pathetic" could be justified in some context that you did not explain.
Since you did not take the effort to explain that context, the term
pathetic is not justified. "cow" is simply pejorative. The comment is
simply mean-spirited, and without any substance.

"The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48" Pejorative
Pe*jor"a*tive, a. F. p'ejoratif, fr. L. pejor,
used as compar. of malus evil.
Implying or imputing evil; depreciatory; disparaging; unfavorable.
1913 Webster

The woman did lose her son. To be so crude as to call her a "cow" is just
adding insult to injury. It appears your interest is not so much in
security issues as it is in politics.

Personally, I'd think more of the government if I thought they had the
ability to do what you're implying :)

Unless you are President George W. Bush, Secretary of Defense Donald
Rumsfeld, or General Michael Hayden, you do not know any more than anyone
else about the issue. That is exactly the point: there is no oversight,
no checks and no balances. Even the members of Congress on committees
charged with oversight of these programs have not been briefed. I don't
even trust them, let alone some secretive cabal headed by the President,
that admittedly ignored and violated explicit federal law. Would you
trust some "avowed communists/socialists" to be wiretapping all your
communications ? I don't think so.

I wasn't "implying" anything that I did not say in plain language right up
front. The NSA in Maryland has been reported to be using more electricity
than the entire city of Anapolis. They are said to have several new
supercomputers on site that they cannot run because they do not have the
electric supply available. Draw your own conclusions. But if you think
that they are not doing absolutely everything they possibly can to
monitor, record and correlate communications, then you are a fool (IMHO).
:) And again, would you be less sanguine if this were being done by
"avowed communists/socialists" ? Maybe ?

The faces you see in these pictures are determined and serious. Their
identities and connections with the issues are clearly available. If it
were not their faces or if they are not successful in their legal
challenges, you would (will) later see the faces of soldiers and/or
partisans in violent conflicts. It is not ( _NOT_ ) a good precedent for
the President of the US to be admittedly ignoring explicit federal law.

I've not met many of that sort who could find their arse with both hands
in the dark let alone subvert the country.

So it is presumably reassuring that you can (presumably) find the
referenced body part with both hands in the dark. That is not to say that
you should have any expectation that I am willing to let those tainted
hands, or any others, "subvert the country" (in your words).

The security issue is that our security is acknowledged to being
continuously, illegally violated, and by an administration that claims
security as its "high ground". That is some large contradiction.

Thanks for playing, though :)

Sure. Thanks for being a willing sounding board.
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