Re: NSA wiretap, Friday night
- From: ex-responder <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:09:29 -0400
-- for jcj:
In my opinion, you have not written anything constructive or helpful. You
have only attacked, belittled and/or ridiculed what others have written.
Usenet has always been a kind of "wild west show", where people can claim
to be anyone they want and write almost anything they want. But you can
be assured that regular readers make their own judgments about who is
writing and what they might potentially have to contribute. You have not
yet contributed anything useful, in my opinion.
Hey there jcj, this is the same "responder" whom you know and love. I
changed my nick for this message so that your "mutually agreed crappy
Outlook newsreader", == but wait, it was not Outlook, but the (even more)
wonderful, *free* Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 that you are
using == but so it wouldn't prevent you from seeing this. You do know of
course, that it wasn't your newsreader that (supposedly) "plonked" my
messages, but you. So your apologies are again hollow, and your message is
again insincere and untruthful.
Your last message was in response to Kevin, and you claimed to have not
seen mine. Yet you wrote:
... as some will obsess upon ad nauseum here, I will finally bring this
thread to some semblance of on-topicness:
Kevin was not by any means "obsess[-ing] upon [anything] ad nauseum here".
I can't see how your attack on _his_ message was at all justified.
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:28:30 -0700, Jay C. James wrote:
"Jay C. James" <x0040973@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:edq30m$oo1$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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"Kevin the Drummer" <nobody@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:slrnefto6c.t1m.nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
So, what can we do to keep our information out of the hands of anyone,Move to a backwards country that has a lack of technology.
including the gov't, that we don't trust with that knowledge? Now
that we know that they're going to spy on us, or at least someone is
going to spy on us.
[... but previously answered properly.]
If using technology, encrypt.
If your technology does not support it, dont use it.
jcj
To 'responder' --
Apologies for responding to my own post, but viewing this newsgroup in
another newsreader (trying out "pan" if you are interested -- updated
today via freshmeat.net)
Super! pan is a good newsreader, though many prefer others. And
freshmeat is really cutting edge. But it's not your software to be
faulted so much as your lame brain and what you write.
I noticed a response claiming that a quote or idea was stolen. Since the
poster has been plonked by me
- by you, not your newsreader -
for some time
via the mutually agreed crappy Outlook newsreader, theres
Ahh, theres [or there is, or there's] the lame brain, again.
no possible
way I could have nicked the idea. Regardless, its not an original idea
anyway.
Its merely common sense. Just encrypt whenever you can, mmmkay?
As I said, it's good advice. Repeat it as often as you like, no charge.
But if you chose to "plonk" the poster, or otherwise not read the thread,
do expect to not be picked up on it.
Dude, please put me on -your- ignore list so we can both sleep better at
night. Me for the safety of my family,
That is a really rude implication. -- *YOU* "for the safety of your
family" ... Just where the hell do you get off, jcj. And I am not your
dude.
and you so you can concentrate
your efforts on someone else more deserving, and not someone who has a
pedigree
Maybe your father or mother was smart and respectful, but you have
certainly not shown that. Respect is not hereditary, but rather earned.
Until now you have not written anything to earn you respect.
in this industry
And what "industry is that supposed to be?
likely 5 or 6 times that of yours.
Google Groups goes back many years now. It shows messages from you this
year. They are all apparently useless and derogatory. Apparently.
Yes, that
includes Linux. That includes the BSD's, most of the commercial Unixes
and guaranteeing 1 or 2 you have never heard of as well.
Would that be like *secret* distros, failed distros, or maybe even
immaginary distros that never even existed outside of your immagination?
I am definitely impressed [NOT].
This also
includes source code contribution to open source projects, alongside
material and financial support too, and efforts on a handful of closed
technical mailing lists you have no access to.
So, those would be, ["like"] *"secret"* ? And how did you know that I,
particularly, had no access to them. Are you talking about "warez"?
I mean, for someone so adamantly against this grand Microsoft
juggernaut, you should have ignored me with flair when you first saw the
header info. What kind of elitist are you, anyway?! Why, in the old
days not only did we ignore anyone who posted anything from a Windows
box, but we blacklisted the entire Class C, I tell you! :P What the heck
has happened to this generation, anyway?
Oh, yes. "The old days." Like from maybe April or May of this year? [ :P
back at you. ] Again, which generation are we asking about here, please?
Your references are very obscure and difficult to follow. Please try to
be clear in your writing for me and for other readers.
My message to you, that you made an excuse to not answer directly, was
that your *claim* to be the only one on topic in the thread -- was
entirely a figment of you imagination. You are the off-topic,
non-contributory poster. It was not Kevin and it was not me. It was you
that posted irrelevant text.
jcj -
not a republican, democrat, moderate or anything political, period, so
if you are going to refer to me in the future, please do not attempt
categorize me politically. You dont have access to my voting records or
personal feelings on anything even remotely political.
If you are posting disruptive and off-topic, irrelevant attacks upon
people writing in a thread about NSA wiretaps, then you should expect to
be classified as a Rovian Republican. Else stop posting irrelevant text.
In my opinion, you are probably, actually a precocious child, with no
sense of history or politics or the consequences of where this country and
world might be headed, or what it might mean to your own life.
Seriously, I apologize if you think I nicked your idea after reading it
here.
Post it often. Post it clearly. Post it emphatically. Post it clearly,
helpfully and emphatically. I endorse it. But if you think it gets you
any *points* to post someone else's suggestions as your own, while
attacking them, then saying you didn't see it because you had them
"plonked", and blaming (of all things) your "mutually agreed crappy
Outlook newsreader" (which was in itself inaccurate), don't expect
respect. You only get respect back from people to whom you have already
shown respect. It is a life's lesson. Learn it.
Your apology is senseless and useless.
Thats an impossibility, you were plonked until today when I fired up the
new version of pan.
I'll help you by posting my responses under a new nick each time you
write. Any human will immediately know, but a machine never will. Plonk
me every time; if you post irrelevant, disrespectful messages in my thread
I'll make sure you have no excuse to say you don't see my response. Boy.
Look, can we just agree to disagree and ignore the other into hopeful
obscurity? :)
You are darn right that we will disagree, at least until you learn the
value of being constructive, at least until you learn the value of being
respectful. And there is no obscurity for rudeness. Listen, read and
learn. Swallow hard. Keep your words soft and palatable, because you
never know when you might have to eat them.
Alan Connor had some words for you on Fri, 19 May 2006 8:37 pm. If you go
to this web link and scroll up a message or three, you can read them all
again.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.questions/browse_thread/thread/658b93e38089642b/475a1f361d3396d9?lnk=st&q=%22Jay+C.+James%22&rnum=2#475a1f361d3396d9
Feel free to have the last word in case you need to clarify something,
correct me, agree to disagree or whatever.
*big hug*
As if I wanted physical contact from you. Don't be gross.
You are getting a rep, boy. ... Not a good thing.
This message and this thread will be archived in google groups forever.
Hope you like it.
[:P]
.
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