Re: Diebold Voting Machines - Security Hole


"responder" <no@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Jay C. James wrote:


"John" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The following describes a significant security hole in Diebold voting
machines.

http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/06/05/12/1228203.shtml



John seriously, this is USENET, not RSS. Please give more information
with your posts.

Jay C. James seriously, what's the problem here? Oh, I see:

X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807

For a lot of us on this ng, just clicking on the link brings up the full
story in our browsers. If you object to blindly clicking on links (a
valid objection) we just highlight the link text and paste it with a
middle click into our browser (not IE) URL bar.

Hey Jay C. James, (see how easy I can copy and paste?), he told you what
the story was about. OK (Deep sigh)

==============================
Critical Security Hole Found in Diebold Machines Posted by Zonk on Friday
May 12, @09:13AM from the want-my-money-back dept.
United States Security Software Politics ckswift writes "From security
expert Bruce Schneier's blog, a major security hole has been found in
Diebold voting machines." From the article: "The hole is considered more
worrisome than most security problems discovered on modern voting
machines, such as weak encryption, easily pickable locks and use of the
same, weak password nationwide. Armed with a little basic knowledge of
Diebold voting systems and a standard component available at any computer
store, someone with a minute or two of access to a Diebold touch screen
could load virtually any software into the machine and disable it,
redistribute votes or alter its performance in myriad ways."

Feel better now?

Here's another link, which is to a pdf format paper (redacted version)
that described the vulnerabilities. (Or should they be called security
faults? Maybe threats to our governments?)

You are posting from a Texas Instruments. If you can read NNTP from work,
why can't you just take your IE over to the given URL and read the story,
or not?

Jay C. James seriously, this is USENET, not kindergarten. Get with the
program. Please. If you want to read a Linux ng from work with IE, at
least have the courtesy to not complain about your browser.

This is a serious security issue that affects voting and our our future
(and present?) governing officials may be. I am sure that if you are
serious, you want good elections as much as anyone else does.

If you are really a patriotic US American (or Canadian, I guess) please
take this somewhat seriously and quit complaining. The man did the right
thing and I for one appreciate it. If you can't live with that kind of
thing, then politely and please take your adolescent NNTP attitude back to
the microsoft newsgroups and let us talk about more serious things without
interruption. Please and thank you very much. Now go away. Please. And
Thank You.



*yawn*

First of all, you have no idea what my politics are, and whatever they may
be if I even
have political convictions, they are none of your business -- and what I
replied with has
no bearing on the subject matter and required no input from you whatsoever.
While I do
appreciate your own emotional interest in the subject, your own conviction
in the matter
does not particularly give you cause for such an outburst and is kinda
embarassing. In
other words, I wasnt talking to you.
Your outburst was unnecessary and detracts from both my sentiment, -and-
yours.

Secondly, calling me adolescent in light of your own quasi-anonymous posting
is ironic.

Thirdly, some of us while able to use NNTP at our places of employment, do n
ot get
to pick and choose how we do it. That said, regardless of the tools used for
NNTP posting,
I am still a Unix professional and Usenet provides me and my cohorts a
knowledge base
with which to give to and take from. None of that knowledge base, by the
way, resides
within the Microsoft newsgroups.

Notice I didnt mention anything about On-Topicness of the original post, but
just about the RSS-like
quality of it, hoping to inspire others to shy away from cross pollinating
protocols. Just in case, I
shouldnt have to explain RSS to you, should I? You obviously have
demonstrated superior knowledge
of NNTP, so hopefully you understand that as well.

So, if you are anal enough to pull out a header and show it to me, but yet
assert that an NNTP
posting merely containing a link and the briefest of summaries not even
related to the newsgroup
is fine enough to represent legitimacy regardless of content, then it
reinforces that your presence
will be missed much less than my own would be to Usenet. Dont assume that
the rest of us can
or will 'click' things we arbitrarily run into on Usenet. You obviously go
the extra mile with following
links and pulling up headers. Good for you, Power User! Check out my headers
for another telling
message.




Feel free to add me to your blocklist of alleged Adolescent Microsoft
Newsgroup Posters, because
as tempting as your invitation to 'go away' is (I appreciate you thanking me
ahead of time, its out of
character for you) I will continue to use the newsgroups in accordance with
the way they should be
used. I would probably be in good company in your blocklist anyway,
considering the source. So yea,
add me and dont forget to "*plonk*" me where I can see it and be suitably
offended that you got the
last and most elitest word.


My relatively brief posting history has been nothing but positive, and will
continue to be that way.
I feel confident in my employers faith in me by allowing me to contribute to
and query Usenet on
an ongoing basis where I feel that overall I am a credit to the community in
a very minute way.



jcj


Additionally, I did read the article...
via someplace else, probably like 99% everyone else who reads this
newsgroup.

Responder, feel free to continue to use Usenet for all your Breaking News.
Others like myself will continue
to choose to be informed about world events in real time, via real channels,
and save certain Usenet groups
for on-topic technical discussions that oftentimes result in actual
obtainable results, strangely enough without
your advanced NNTP skills getting in the way, despite the distraction you
have provided.




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