Re: Firewall hits passing through a NAT router - How does that work?

From: Llanzlan Klazmon (Klazmon_at_llurdiaxorb.govt)
Date: 04/28/05

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    Robert Glueck <rglk@web.de> wrote in
    news:t6KdnRERLNDzI_PfRVn-1w@rcn.net:

    > I'm running the Firestarter v.0.92 firewall, installed with default
    > settings (all traffic from the Internet denied unless it's a response
    > to traffic initiated by my machine) on my desktop machine which runs
    > Xandros 2.0.1 and is connected to the Internet via a NAT router and a
    > cable modem broadband connection. When I scan my machine using the
    > port scanning services offered by Sygate, GRC, PCFlank etc., all ports
    > scanned are diagnosed as stealthed. No surprise, as it is the router
    > that's being scanned, I assume. I also assume that no connect attempt
    > from the Internet that's not in response to a connect initiated by
    > myself should pass through the router.
    >
    > Yet, I sometimes get firewall hits, occasionally lots of them (dozens
    > in a session) that are recorded by Firestarter as dropped packets.
    > They consistently come from a small number of domains, in particular
    > reverse.theplanet.com (quite a few different specific IP addresses in
    > that domain, e.g. 70.85.109.180, 70.85.15.34, 70.85.14.242,
    > 70.84.68.196), reverse.coreix.net (e.g. 83.142.30.80) and
    > dd8316.kasserver.com (a German "customer administration system"). The
    > ports that are hit are in the high range, e.g. 45321-45445, 33277 and
    > higher, 38600-38800, etc.
    >
    > Typical log entries in the /var/log/messages file of Xandros (a
    > Debian-based distro) look like this:
    >
    > Apr 20 16:46:50 [deleted] kernel: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=[deleted]
    > SRC=70.85.109.180 DST=192.168.0.3 LEN=44 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=51
    > ID=0 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=33821 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 ACK SYN URGP=0
    >
    > Apr 20 18:54:14 [deleted] kernel: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=[deleted]
    > SRC=83.142.30.80 DST=192.168.0.3 LEN=44 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=0
    > DF PROTO=TCP SPT=80 DPT=33903 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 ACK SYN URGP=0
    >

    Those appear to be http servers that are responding to a SYN request
    from your machine. If you accesed these sites from a browser but then
    closed the browser before the response came back you would get this sort
    of thing happening.

    > Two questions:
    >
    > 1. How is it possible that an unauthorized connect attempt from these
    > sources can penetrate through the NAT router to be recorded by my
    > firewall? As an aside, one of the security scanners available on the
    > web that I used to have my machine scanned (I don't remember which)
    > was actually able to determine the correct local (LAN) address of my
    > machine, behind the router. How is that possible?

    A connect attempt would be a SYN packet. These appear to be
    acknowlegments of SYN packets sent by your machine.

    K.

    >
    > 2. Who are these folks at reverse.theplanet.com, reverse.coreix.net
    > and kasserver.com, and what are they up to?
    >
    > Many thanks for your help.
    >
    > Robert
    >


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