Re: Did I give up on telnet too easily?
From: erik (erik_at_geenspam.vanwesten.net)
Date: 09/27/03
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:39:34 +0200
Alan Connor wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:10:45 +0200, erik <erik@geenspam.vanwesten.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Alan Connor wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:30:30 +0100, Tim Haynes
>>> <usenet-20030925@stirfried.vegetable.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan Connor <alanconnor@earthlink.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Myself and millions and millions of others use telnet and related
>>> programs everyday, without any problems at all.
>>>
>>> This is a fact. For rational people, facts supersede theories.
>>>
>>> We are going to continue using these programs.
>>>
>>> Get used to it and get a life.
>>>
>>> (Feel free to try and crack our boxes. You won't like what happens
>>> to you.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Where do all these paranoid bullies come from? Wherever it is, I
>>> wish they would go back there and quit trying to infect everyone on
>>> the Usenet with their paranoia.
>>>
>>> But the obvious truth is, that THESE very people are the ones you
>>> have to watch: I once knew a thief. He was forever convinced that
>>> everyone was trying to rip him off.
>>>
>>
>> Please continue to use telnet. Please tell the rest of the world they
>> can safely use it, so I can continue making my living cleaning up
>> after breakins. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one with hands on
>> experience of blatantly ignorant people installing stupid services.
>>
>> In case you haven't found out yet, the Internet is full of people who
>> are naive enough to think that unencrypted services are not a problem
>> in their limited view of the world
>
>
> Why do people keep posting the same garbage, phrased in various ways?
Maybe because there are some people out there who are just a little bit
more experienced than you? Or should I say just a little bit more
competent?
>
> You are wrong.
Prove me wrong. You cannot do so.
>
> And WHERE you are wrong is in insisting that encryption through a
> standard- ized program is the only way to be secure on the Internet.
It sure is a better way than using plain old telnet.
>
> There are many practical defenses that do not involve encryption at
> all.
There are none. None whatsoever.
>
> No one breaks into MY box.
O, you did secure it in a concrete box, no connections, no power etc?
Prove that your box hasn't been cracked. You cannot.
>
> I am REALLY sick of having people tell me that my own experience and
> those of millions of others are to be dismissed because they happen to
> know some really stupid people.
You will get sicker. You are just a plain troll. A troll who does not
have a clue what he is talking about, and showing that. Plain and
simple.
>
> And who are those stupid people? The ones dumb enough to listen to
> people like you.
Looking in the mirror?
>
>> The Internet is also full of people
>> who take advantage of this. The Internet is an evil place to be if
>> you're not careful.
>>
>
> Another stupid assumption which you wouldn't have made if you had
> bothered to read the thread before running your mouth with the party
> line.
Blahblahblah. Hope to never hear from you again.
*PLONK*
>
> Try to break into MY box and you will wish you hadn't.
And then what? What will happen? You come swim personally over that
small ocean to teach me a lesson? You even start to get funny. I'm
considering to unplonk. So, we're just seeing a simple lunatic. That's
funny nowadays.
>
>
>> EJ
>> --
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>>
Clueless enough to not even know a sig separator when he stumbles on
one?
>
> We will continue to use telnet et al, and continue to be safe, and if
> people would just quit listening to fear-mongers like you, then you'd
> have to get a real job.
'We'? You.
EJ
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