Re: Pro-active Security Software?

From: /dev/rob0 (
Date: 08/06/03

Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:16:20 -0700

In article <6k_Xa.12116$>,
  Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>>>Out-of-the-box security is a big plus,
>> Few really achieve this AFAIK. Those that do (Red Hat) do it with a
>> brain-dead, totally useless DROP-everything firewall. No matter what, I
> I actually wouldn't recommend RedHat for this. The update path is

I really wasn't. I was just trying to make the point that OOTB security
is probably overrated. I remember a frustrating afternoon I spent with a
newbie and a fresh RH 7.1 install ... couldn't ping it, couldn't connect
to ANYTHING it was running. I checked iptables ... nope. Took me 2 hours
to think to check ipchains! (WTF did they stick with ipchains in a
2.4.x-based release?!?)

But hey, it's [mostly] secure OOTB.

> Hell, ever tried to rip all the *GAMES* out of a RedHat system to
> lighten it up? Or all the X/gtk/tk/tcl appliances?

Hahaha, no, I never had the, uh, pleasure. :)

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