Re: Really headache on antispam!

From: Tim Haynes (
Date: 12/10/02

From: Tim Haynes <>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:03:45 +0000

Jem Berkes <> writes:

>> What's the probability of the utility being branded a racist? ;o)
> Pretty damn high.


For example, I've got at least 10 instances of sender: ???????
<cyan0316 @> in my spam-senders database (yay, the blighters
*do reuse* From:/Sender:/Envelope-From headers!).

> It's also likely to be branded an HTML hater.

Just a little ;) :

For me, the top few individual words indicative of spam:

     51975 <= [nbsp]
     62952 <= [with]
     63509 <= [from]
     68769 <= [size]
     70748 <= [color]
     73821 <= [this]
     91530 <= [your]
    202676 <= [font]

and the top few word-pairs indicative of it:

    13551 <= [option value]
    15100 <= [align center]
    22629 <= [received from]
    26421 <= [face arial]
    27397 <= [nbsp nbsp]
    28285 <= [font face]
    30429 <= [font size]
    38988 <= [font color]
    50494 <= [font font]

And other misc header tokens indicative of spam:

     279 <= [microsoft outlook express 5.00.2919.6700]
     351 <= [content-type: text/html; charset=ks_c_5601-1987]
     634 <= [text/plain; charset=us-ascii]
     690 <= [text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1]
     836 <= [text/plain; charset=windows-1252]
    2648 <= [text/html; charset=iso-8859-1]

Hehe. Now y'all know what to send me :8)

> However, whatever it "chooses" to hate is fair because that's what you're
> telling it to hate. Because that's what you (particular to your case) are
> being spammed with.

Quite so.

This is also why it's of dubious benefit to roll this out across multiple
recipients - if one person's spam is another's ham (possibly because only
two categories are in use - accept/reject) then you'll have problems.


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