Re: Why does every one hate Microsoft
- From: "Dana" <raff242@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:12:23 -0800
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Dana wrote:
"Sebastian Gottschalk" <seppi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dana wrote:for
No, customers wanted a *web*browser (hint: something that's suitable
whysurfing the web in terms of security) *delivered* with the OS. Well,
didn't they ship Netscape 4.x?
Because Microsoft had their own,
No, they didn't.
Internet explorer.
Didn't you read the rest of the statement, where I explained why MSIE
should not be considered a webbrowser?
Being that Internet Explorer is recognized as a web browser, your opinion is
just that, an opinion.
Netscape.
Which when those two first came out, I would say IE was better than
IE -> trivially compromised by malware, generally unavoidable
Netscape -> maybe a bit fuddly, but works well
Still the point is when the browser wars between IE and Netscape happened,
netscape lost even with all the problems in IE.
internet
and there is no problem with them tying it to their OS.
Wrong again.
No, I am quite right. There is nothing wrong with Microsoft tying
explorer to the OS.
You really didn't read a word, did you? The integration of an unfixable
security problem into the OS is of course a big problem.
And again, there is nothing wrong with Microsoft tying IE into the OS.
You may dissagree with the MS decision to do that, but that is their choice
to make, not yours. If you do not like that, well use a different OS.
over
That is not what happened, Internet Explorer became the popular choice
NetScape.
Right, and there's still no relationship to the product quality. People
used IE because it was there and they didn't know anything else.
Netscape was advertising. Heck I had both browsers at one time. Just like I
have Mozilla and opera today.
I myself never liked Netscape Browser, and it seems quite a few people also
felt that way about Netscape browser.
No one is forcing you to buy windows.
You may consider this statement again.
I did, if you despise MS so much, do not buy their products.
Yes if you work for a company, and they buy Windows, that you have no
control over.
will
On that we agree, which is why Symmatic and Mcafee and those types
still be in demand to come up with software to help protect windows.
No.
Sure they can if they want.
For sure they stopped doing so more than 10 years ago.
Yes, it is well known that Microsoft has put out some very vulnerable
software products.
It is also well known that Microsoft has put out some very secure software
products. Now, you should not generalize everything.
Windows is not anywhere being as secure as a Unix distro from say Sun or HP.
This is not a knock against windows, it is just a known fact.
Heck server 2003 is their best server yet, almost as good as a Unix box in
regards to reliablity, and ability to handle intensive processing. I still
would not trust Windows as my database server platform, for that I will
stick with HP or Sun Unix and Oracle.
that
That still does not help how vulnerable Win 2k is to attack.
Huh? Is it? That would be real news. Any references to a major security
problem in Win2K?
Of course being the most widely used OS also plays a factor in this, in
ismore people to to crack it.
What did we learn from Apache vs. IIS? The most easily attackable system
the target, which is not necessarily the most widely used one.
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