Re: Secure passwords?
- From: "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:50:40 GMT
"nemo_outis" <abc@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "lyalc" <lyalc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>
> > Actually, if you think about it, low speed systems are much, much
> > easier to detect/compromise, in a tempest sense.
> >
> > Signal emissions are usually the first 5-20 harmonics of the clock
> > speed. A clock of 100 Mhz probably needs a receiving AND PROCESSING
> > bandwidth of 500-1000 Mhz.
> >
> > A clock speed of 3 Ghz can mean a processing bandwidth (analog or
> > digital ) exceeding 10 Ghz.
> > That's a fairly expensive set of kit, super-computing scale, not
> > suitcase sized, portable gear, especially if you are looking for
> > near-real-time recovery, not SETI-style post analysis.
> > Often, these higher frequencies have much less energy/radiated power
> > than lower speed clocks, for a variety of technical reasons.
> > So the detection range (signal over noise) is probably much less,
> > potentially minimising the 'volume' of risk.
<snip>
The real reason is even more simple - faster boxes tend to radiate more and,
since most of that is the computer equivilent of "tum-te-tum, hurry up and
type something", the interferance will help to conceal unshielded keyboard
and screen signals (which is all one is interested in).
> Some interesting speculations (and with Tempest we are all speculating to
> some degree).
Not necessarily (although I certainly don't claim to be an expert!). Even
the most unobservant person will be able to compare and contrast a bit of
Tempested kit that they are using day-in, day-out with the equivilent
standard kit. Last I looked, the UK classification for Tempest was the same
level as the canteen menu at the local Job Centre.
<snip>
> However, much of this is beside the point. While Tempest (emsec)
> interceptions could concentrate on CPU processor (and related)
> frequencies, most descriptions so far (including the original van Eck
> paper) concentrate on peripherals, such as the CRT display. Frequences
> here are standardized and independent of the CPU-related frequencies.
> And we know that CRT emmissions are strong, strong enough to have caused
> efforts (TUV, etc.) to reduce emissions for health, rather than emsec
> reasons.
CRT and keyboard both - the whole point is that you're trying to sniff data
traffic, and any network information is going to be via fibre, which is
itself protected to a greater or lesser degree.
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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