Re: Students' computers...
From: Dazz (cashdj_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/01/05
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Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:07:19 +1000
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:15:59 +0100, Steve Welsh <sjw@stevew.net>
wrote:
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>If they take on 'the' site license software and they are connected to
>the campus network, it's done automatically. But in any case it is many
>orders of magnitude better than just a couple of years ago, when the
>protection was _zero_ :(
Yeah, there always has to be a starting point. As long as no-one gets
complacent about it and thinks "Well, we've done our bit and that's
all we have to do".
> What about security
>> patches? Are campus staff insisting that they also use firewalls?
>
>They are behind the campus firewall anyway
My concern would be more about what was happening on the internal
network
>> Exactly how much is managed by the campus staff and how much is left
>> in the hands of the users?
>>
>> How do campus staff enforce these policies and ensure that they are
>> adhered to?
>
>Dunno - not that close to it :-O
Ahh.
>> Is the network segmented or isolated from other more sensitive areas
>> of the network?
>
>Yes, very much so
That's always good. :-)
>> Are campus staff also employing the use of firewalls and anti-virus
>> gateways to help protect the network?
>
>As above
The questions I asked are more or less the same questions that the
Library I'm currently contracting at will find itself in very shortly
(and to a lesser degree, the situation they are already in).
Currently, our staff are using the same servers (Citrix environment)
and network as the library patrons. The really cluey patrons out
there can literally access many of the same services that staff
access, even though we've tried to nail them down as much as possible.
Unfortunately, being a Gov entity, there are so many levels of
beaurocracy that it's not funny. When I first walked in (a few months
back) I looked at the current setup and said "Oh, my freaking god"
(substitute "freaking" for another word ;-P ).
Because the Library is supposed to be "open" for the patrons and
because senior management believe in enforcing this "openness" (at the
cost of security), we are in a constant struggle to stay on top.
They have plans to introduce wireless access for the patrons once the
new building is opened up, and we are going to find ourselves in a
similar position to that which was described in the OP's first post,
and your response. :-(
Hopefully, senior management will listen to what we have to say - but
I suspect they won't. :-(
Dazz
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