Re: Cross Site Scripting for .exe?

From: Winged (
Date: 06/07/05

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    > Hi,
    > I'm a newbie but from what i've read, most of the Cross Site Scripting
    > vulnerabilities are associated with the .jsp, .asp, .htm etc. But i'm
    > looking at a particular case of security testing where the forms
    > containing user input post to a .exe. This .exe is under the /cgi-bin
    > directory. What does this exactly mean? How can an exe take in these
    > posted inputs?
    > Also, If i put in any scripts into the user input field, after posting
    > of this data to an exe, i get an error page which just lists the error
    > number and no other info...How do i find out if my script has been
    > executed or is there some other exploit i can use for a .exe ?
    > Thanks.
    Sounds to me as if you are attempting to exploit the exe called by the
    post cgi script.

    Depending on input checking and permission levels you very likely can't,
    to the best of my knowledge, if it is done properly. That is the
    general idea to defeat folks trying to doing unions and such with error

    The error message (number) thrown probably, depending on method, does
    not mean anything except to the help desk for the application so they
    can identify easily what the users issue is. The error message does not
    come from the DB but from the exe. It means your method has been

    Sounds to me like your approach may very well can not succeed. Congrats
    to the folks who understood the vulnerability of many HTML applications.
      That exe that is called by the cgi script handles several procedures:
            1. It determines if the input is valid and does not contain chars that
    indicate a delimiter in the input. It also validates the input length
    does not exceed define parameters (prevents buffer overflows)

            2. After the exe has validated the input string it places the
    validation sequence verifier in the commo string as well as applies the
    encryption template (probably used if they were astute enough to do this
    properly) so the data can be passed to the DB server. This reduces the
    probability of successful access to the DB if the web server is compromised.

            3. Formost purpose of the exe is to place a boundary between the DB and
    the application user. DB error messages should never be thrown to the
    user. This exe acts as a middle man to prevent this activity from
    occurring. Unknown to you is another exe that filters the db input to
    the web server to ensure the error (or other information you want to
    keep secret such as the db schema) is never passed as data to the

    SQL injection is a major issue with many web applications. These
    methods are designed to prevent access.

    Once folks understand the threat from injection, the methods used to
    prevent SQL injection is simple enough.

    I suspect "if" the application allows file posting, you will find the
    webserver input file input file from the DB checked for other keyword
    activities. Once it is set up, it is actually simpler for the
    application programmer to utilize these secure methods as the exe
    handles the DB calls, not the application. This eliminates another
    subset of exploits such as DB access data strings, algorithmic key
    methods, and encryption template data from being easily revealed.

    I assume you are hacking this site because you do not know what the exe
    is or the meaning of the error code (arbitrary). This is by design to
    prevent you from doing what you are attempting to do. I would expect
    you will find at this site all of their input methods covered by this
    same technique. Usually once this issue is understood, one goes through
    site with fine tooth comb to ensure these methods are prevented. Even if
    you compromise the webserver and gain access to the exe (which should
    trip a number of tripwires) you still will not gain access to the db
    because of methods used to synchronize the db communication. If all
    sites used these methods, we wouldn't have all the credit card
    compromises that certain (expletives deleted) attempt to access what
    they have no right to access.


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