Re: Setting specific IP address?
From: nemo_outis (abc_at_xyz.com)
Date: 05/12/05
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Date: 12 May 2005 21:11:39 GMT
ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote in
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>>http://www.sd330.com/products.htm
>
> Who's making the hardware/software? The website is aimed at consumers,
> and I certainly hope their technical specs are actually a lot more
> realistic than what is shown on the web pages. Doing a google search,
> I turn up a grand total of six hits, including one from you in 2003.
>
> Looking at the domain registration gives me ZERO confidence. Someone
> who wants to hide behind godaddy, and DomainsByProxy.com obviously
> isn't quite what my management would want to hear. Heck, there are
> literally 43 "manufacturers" listed in the OUI list whose place of
> business is a "room" on some floor of a large building in Taiwan or
> elsewhere. What's with these people? The guarantee is also rather
> lame - 30 days from date of invoice to them receiving it back in
> cherry condition - AFTER you manage to get an RMA?
>
> They advertise it for several versions of windoze, and tell people to
> see the 'download' page for more information. There, they mention
> such definitive information that is works with Novell (and don't
> bother to mention which version - which may indicate a problem because
> the SD430 section talks about ODI, but not HAM), SCO Open server
> (again, versions?), Artisoft LANtastic (is anyone still using that
> ancient crap), and Redhat (which implies some version of Linux, but
> not which of over fifty releases of Red Hat, never mind if this might
> apply to any of the hundred plus other distributions of Linux - they
> might have given some clue by mentioning a RH version, or more
> appropriately a Linux kernel version, but it's pretty obvious they're
> not aware of these subtleties,). There might be a clue in the download
> area, but the top of that page says "Only customers are authorized to
> download". On the other hand, if you still have someone running
> windoze for workgroups (3.11 from 1993) they claim to have a driver.
> Another thing that gives non-windoze users real confidence is that the
> "driver" is only available in a .zip file download - which is a
> dos/windoze file format. Sorry, where is the gzip'ed tarball, or even
> a tar.Z file.
>
> The FAQ page at http://www.sd330.com/faq.txt also gives zero
> confidence. The question "Is there another way to change MAC address?"
> is absolute FUD. So is the third section of "I want to change MAC
> address, should I buy a SpeedDemon network card?" It may scare windoze
> lusers, but it shows that the page was written under strict
> instructions from the sales weasels, rather than anyone who has ANY
> technical knowledge. Truth? WTF is that?
>
> Old guy
The speeddemon site and folks are flaky and disreputable, true. But WTF
would one expect when buying hacker tools? (and that's what they clearly
are despite the "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" stuff to give - a very thin -
veneer of legitimacy). Actually, their longevity is amazing given their
"business model."
Moreover, their boards do work fine (at least mine has). As for the
software, I agree the "works under this or that OS" stuff is vague but it
only really means that their software front end(s) can access their
hardware to program it - and that's not very OS-version dependent. So,
yeah, they're vague and sloppy, but their interfacing software does what
it claims. In short, their hardware and software work.
Net result: 1/10 for style points, 10/10 for effectiveness. (Well, maybe
a 2-point deduction for being grossly overpriced.)
Now as for whether you run windoze, Unix, Linux, *BSD, or whatever on
server - or client - machines, none of this matters for someone who
simply wishes to hang an unauthorized machine on the network by spoofing
a legitimate MAC (he gets to pick his preferred OS :-) Yes, he can spoof
the MAC in software, but a hardware-programmable NIC card is much more
convenient and versatile.
As for hijacking legitimate but (temporarily) unused MACs, there are a
million methods. One of the handiest is to have someone (other than
oneself) send out a general email notice regarding something or other
(corporate charity drive, etc.) and see who comes back with autoreply
emails of the form "I will be out of the office until June 23" or
whatever. Bingo! (Traditionalists like me prefer instead to inspect the
paper holiday schedule :-)
Regards,
PS For those who prefer to spoof MACs in software there are readily-
available tools for virtually every OS out there. This works because the
hardware MAC is (almost) invariably mediated through a software driver
before being put out over the network and the driver can be - ahem!
"misinformed" regarding the MAC. SMAC is convenient with windows,
arpspoof for Linux, but there are many alternatives and variants. Before
SMAC I used to patch the windows registries on client machines - SMAC
just made it a tad handier.
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