Re: Nopir-B worm...

From: DANG (danznobox69_at_hotgarblemail.com)
Date: 04/25/05 

Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:21:46 GMT

"Michael Pelletier" <mjpelletier@mjpelletier.com> schreef in bericht
news:NJWae.65010$A31.61861@fed1read03...
> DANG wrote:
>
> >
> > "Michael Pelletier" <mjpelletier@mjpelletier.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:RNTae.64982$A31.39726@fed1read03...
> >> Now, who really thinks this was NOT sponsored by the Music Industry?
> >>
> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10985?ref=rss
> >
> > Which "music industry" are you referring to?
>
> Could be IFPI or RIAA...
>
> > It is allegedly thought to
> > originate from France and poses as a commercial dvd copier application.
> > Have you peformed any search of known dvd copier apps on any p2p
platform?
> > I think you'll find a meagre haul... it just isn't that popular for
> > sharing.
>
> DVD rippers and DVD to Divix stuff? They are very popular...
>
> > Hypothetically, if "the" or any "music industry" you care to name
> > or refer to, wished to sabotage the p2p community by indiscriminate
damage
> > to mp3's and/or .com applications don't you think they'd use a better
> > vehicle?
>
> That is the best vehicle. You hit them where they do it. You hit them
where
> it hurts.
>
> > No, I believe they will continue their actions through the courts
> > and close down a variety of torrents websites... as for viral p2p
> > sabotage, regardless of how ineffective it is... no, just conspiracy
> > theory. DANG
>
> Sure the Music Industry will continue their court cases. But, you can not
> close down some of the newer P2P sites because they are not centralized.
> Only the first generations were. In short they will never stop piracy. No
> matter how much money they sink into pushing new laws.
>
> Like I said before. It just seems to suspicious to me. You get someone to
> download your trojan. Since most Windows users log in with administrator
> privs your trojan now has full access to the system. At this point you can
> pretty much do anything and your telling me that they only decide to
delete
> mp3 files? That does not seem strange to you? Usually the people that
write
> these things could not care less about the laws....why would they all of a
> sudden get morals?

Ok let's calm down and focus a little bit. I hadn't thought this necessary
to reply to your reply, but I'll try and make this clearer. your terms of
reference are vague and non-specific. You suggest "the music industry" and
now quote the IFPI or the RIAA, neither of which produces music at all. They
are just the organisational vehicles, representing international and
american record producers, which try to limit piracy of their copyrighted
material. They are legitimate organisations. They are not the malicious,
amoral virus/trojan/worm authors you seem to be confusing them with.
Dvd rippers and dvd to divx "stuff" is fairly popular but it is widely
available for direct download from a variety of regular download sites.
There is really not that much activity in this type of app in p2p. And let's
be specific about p2p, you're using the term as a generic. There are a
number of different p2p applications, methods and sites. Which are you
referring to when you say "cannot close down some of the newer P2P sites"? I
referred to torrent sites and indeed FYI three hugely popular bit torrent
websites have been closed down within the last 6 months.
Hit them where it hurts? An indiscriminate virus that targets mp3 and/or
.com files, whether they are the legitimate or the pirated property of
victim, disguised as a dvd copier? Surely a dvd ripper would be more
concerned with video piracy. Are you now suggesting "The Movie Industry" are
now also involved?
Yes, you said it before, you think it's suspicious. "You get someone to
download your trojan", this remark makes me wonder whether you have your own
personal axe to grind. Your original post refers to the Nopir-B worm and now
you're rambling about a trojan. I'm telling you what this worm does because
I read and absorbed the review your link provided, did you? The name of the
WORM is the title of your post! I'm not sure exactly who or what you're so
prejudiced against, is it the "p2p community" as a whole, or the music
pirates, the video pirates, or the "music industry" and/or the organisations
set up to secure copyright, or the virus authors themselves. You seem to be
painting all of them with the same tar brush.
Many thanks for your original link referral, but please in future read it
yourself and as frustrating for you as it may seem, leave the general
venting to your blog site.
Kind regards,
DANG

Quantcast