Re: Protecting an open VPN connection from a local home LAN

From: -Lone_Wolf- (lone_wolfs_den_at_CLOTHEShotmail.com)
Date: 02/23/05

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    Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:07:32 GMT
    
    

    winged wrote:
    > -Lone_Wolf- wrote:
    >> Yesterday I opened my firewall only to notice repeated attempts to
    >> my VPN listening service. I took a screen capture and then locked
    >> out the VPN. When I looked back at the log it showed 892 attempted
    >> connections (I assume he/she was trying to crack the password) in
    >> the hour for which the log went back (and presumably much longer).
    >>
    >> So here is my question...
    >>
    >> I have taken an old PC (Win98) and turned it into a VPN gateway to
    >> my LAN. There is a NAT Router and all connections to the open VPN
    >> ports are directed to the new Gateway. I have set up the Win98 box
    >> to always log out with a very good password but I am not too sure
    >> this will be enough? So to hack in one needs to beat the VPN password,
    >> beat the Win98
    >> password then open another (password protected) VPN connection on
    >> the Win98 Machine to any of my other PC's.
    >>
    >> Do you think this is unwarranted protection, not enough protection,
    >> or flawed in theory?
    >>
    >> Thank you
    >>
    >> John
    >>
    >>
    > Win 98 is flawed theory. Win 98 can be walked right through using
    > several methods, even with a respectable software firewall. I would
    > consider other OS alternatives. There are a number of exploitable
    > flaws in Win98 at the winsock level, which is below software
    > protection levels.

    I had a feeling this was so..!

    >
    > The attacker "might" have been running a script that was designed to
    > provide the packet pad of your nic card when you logged in. A number
    > of NIC cards on the market have this flaw. They use memory to pad the
    > window size for a packet. If an attacker hits the system at the time
    > you log in they can get your in clear passwords to the system (as the
    > pad is pulled from system memory).
    >
    > You don't mention what VPN software/hardware you are using. I know
    > that there is a major exploit with a number of IPSEC firewalls (I
    > know CISCO was one) where the VPN can be hacked at the concentrator on
    > the
    > boundary. If I remember right the exploit it revealed the login
    > password exchange.

    Ultr@VNC (WinVNC)

    >
    > You don't mention what review you have made of running services on the
    > system. While you are firewalled if you have running services opening
    > ports, some services can be exploited. The best site I have seen for
    > reducing running services is located at http://www.blackviper.com/. Of
    > course I am assuming (big assumption that your primary PC is
    > XP/2000).

    I have been to this site and have shut down anything that was not necessary.
    All scans for running services end up negative.

    >
    > I don't fully know the risk value, but I wouldn't bet the farm on the
    > security of your setup. Then again there is no such thing as a
    > completely secure system.

    Yeah I think I will just keep VNC from accessing the WAN and only use it on
    the LAN for now.

    Thank you for you input!

    John


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