Re: I have been asked to leave the company for having spotted serious security breaches

From: Michael J. Pelletier (mjpelletier_at_mjpelletier.com)
Date: 02/03/05 

Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:37:15 -0800

Curious George wrote:

> Allright guys. . .
>
> All of you have made your point. This is the Original Poster and I am not
> a troll unless you catch me on a Friday night after a few drinks.
>
> The advise given here is solid, good and very much appreciated.
>
> Actually, I have not been asked to leave. . . its a subtle hint, but I
> think thats where they are going. After all, it would look really, really
> sleeeazy to the board of directors if their chief IT guy was escorted out
> or asked to leave or something else because he brought up a major, major,
> major security issue which, I must add, they have NOT addressed yet!
>
> The memos are not flying, indeed, the issue is so silent you could hear a
> mouse fart. I think I have made peace with my boss, rather, tolerating
> it. Never the less, considering the nature of the information that is at
> stake (e.g. children's record, to name but a few), I think that I am doing
> the right thing.
>
> On the other hand, this type of stuff is not something that schools like
> to get out.
>
> On a brighter note, I posted this and then called a buddy of mine who has
> been in the IT field about as long as I have. A phone call later and I
> was on the horn with a real headhunter - no, not the sleazy employment
> agency troll type, but a bona fide headhunter.
>
> In any event, I think that what is going to happen is that they are going
> to try to make things work out and then, oh well, then the ball is in my
> court.
>
> I think that this underscores that its time to move on to greener
> pastures. Hey, because of this I have started toying with security
> utilities I had not
> touched in about two years. Darn, this stuff has gotten really, really
> sophisticated and. . . well, I have become rather paranoid about things.
> SO guess what the first thing I did this AM was??? Yep, my password is now
> so long and has so many characters in it that. . .
>
> The short of it is that its really sad that these are the sort of people
> who we entrust to oversee the administration of schools and handle our
> most
> precious resource, our children. I think its not so much the teachers,
> although there are plenty of bad ones I assure you, its the administration
> of these schools that is at issue. The really good teachers, the
> progressive ones who want to really make a difference and truly enage
> these young minds with challenges are being squashed.
>
> Enough rambles, I am boring the crap out of everyone.
>
> Thank you so very, very much to all of you for having contributed to this
> thread. My apologies to those of you whom I have pissed because of my
> excessive cross posting and I hope that if we ever have the opportunity to
> work together I can return the favor.
>
> Curious George
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.02.02.22.47.59.815956@nowhere.lan...
>> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:39:47 -0800, Michael J. Pelletier wrote:
>>
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:58:11 +0100, Jim Watt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:40:13 GMT, not_real@xxx.yyy (Beachcomber)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Basic advice - Don't leave voluntarily. Don't sign any papers that
>>>>>>say you did bad things. If the job is that valuable to you, start
>>>>>>looking for a good employment lawyer.
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH if you know about computer security and you are good at
>>>>> what you do, move on to a better paid job where you are appreciated
>>>>> and say " *** the bastards" what have you lost? a bad job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Move out and move on.
>>>>
>>>> Wonder why we've not seen a single post by the OP since that one about
>>>> his
>>>> being removed? Could it have been a trolling?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or he has been "escorted" out the door and is busy looking for
>>> employment....
>>>
>>> In ether case, I have done allot of consulting for the past couple of
>>> years
>>> and I am amazed at how sleazy people can become....
>>
>> Yea, I've been doing work all over the country (US) and found many people
>> that won't listen when you tell them their network is fully exposed and
>> that a few hours with their firewall would fix it without any noticeable
>> impact on their business functions...
>>
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Unfortunately, George, the people that rise to the top of an organization
are more times than not sellouts. Those people that hide issues instead of
fixing them. Even worse, they are the type when something happens say "Why
did you not fix that". When you have been bringing up the issue for months!
Corporations have gotten really bad...well, I guess I am ranting and raving
too much....

Like I have said many times "Those that rise to the top of an organization
rise because they float. Remember *** floats!"

Take care, the IT biz in the US is really starting to pick up. You are in NY
right? I have some good contacts, in the NY area, if you are interested.
Email me if you are.

Michael