Re: Windows vulnerability vs Linux vulnerability [Re: Would a firewall prevent Sasser worm?]
From: Bernd Felsche (bernie_at_innovative.iinet.net.au)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 21:54:59 +0800
Leythos <email@example.com> writes:
>In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "Jörn W. Janneck"
><jwjanneck at yahoo dot com> says...
>> since, surely, nobody in their right mind wants to spend that amount of
>> money for something that they could replace for free, now would they. (on
>> amazon: xp pro 179 to 269 + office 124 to 419 + outlook 86 + nav 59 +
>> quickbooks 139 to 289 = 587 to 1122, and that's USD) but i am sure that
>> there is some feature in, what was it, quickbooks, that is not in gnucash,
>> and that just happens to be absolutely essential to this "mother-in-law."
>> and if it's just the ability to read quickbook files.
>Well, lets take a look at this - since we're talking about people that
>are doing it on their own, we're talking about people that must know
>enough to purchase OEM copies instead of retail. Heck, if they know
>enough to find/download/install Mandrake and Open Office and then find
>GNUCash and install/import they know enough to get OEM.
>Windows XP Prof OEM: $140
>Office 2003 SBE (Access, Word, Excel, Publisher, Outlook) $241
>Total cost $381
>Time to find Mandrake 10 Beta 15 minutes
>Time to download - 2 streams 4 hours each - 8 hours total 3 ISO images
>Burn to CD - 4 minutes each
Why? Buy SuSE or ask a local Linux user group to burn copies.
>Wipe computer you just downloaded from - 15 minutes
Not necessary. The existing partions acn usually be resized to make
room for a Linux install.
>Install Mandrake 10 - Guessing 1 hours for first time?
SuSE takes about 15 minutes on a reasonable P4, choosing only defaults.
>Install Open Office - Guessing 15 minutes first time?
>Get Travan 40 tape drive working - 2 hours
Why? Because it takes that long to get going under Windows?
Detected by SuSE Linux. No extra work.
>Restore backup of data - nope, used Tapeware for backup
>Find Tapeware for nix - download it
>Figure out how to install it - 30 minutes
>Restore backup of data - Yea, (no time since it would be the same on a
You love making work for youself, don't you? If there's a hard way,
you're sure to find it.
>Find GNUCash - 15 minutes
On the SuSE media.
>Install GNUCash - 15 minutes
On the SuSE media. Default install.
>Restore QuickBooks backup file - not sure if we could
Que? Quickbooks doesn't exist. It hasn't been purchased.
>Relearn office tasks - about 30 minutes over the week.
>TOTAL TIME 14 hours, 6 hours if we don't count downloads
>Pay rate $25/hr * 14 hours = $350 base cost
>Pay rate $25/hr * 6 hours = $150 base cost
Crikey; slave labour rates!
>So, if we account for all of her time to download and setup
>Mandrake 10 and Open Office it's about a wash, even if we don't
>count the time she takes to be around to monitor the FTP,
>Mandrake/Office solution is only half as cheap as the MS solution.
Sorry; your assumptions are baseless and your conclusions
You're counting download times that aren't necessary and *making*
work that only results in frustration.
>In reality, the Mandrake / Open Office solution is going to cost
>her much more in relearning time over the next 6 to 8 months as she
>learns more about it and tries to do the same things she did on
It'd be very nice if the world stood still and nothing changed. But
then Bill Gates wouldn't make any more dough.
>Once you look at the cost, it's not much difference, it's about
>comfort and ease of use, and for someone that already knows the
>Windows base it's not worth the effort.
SuSE Linux 9.1 Pro costs $89.95 for the full edition with all the
manuals. Overnight (Fedex) brings that to a "grand" total of
Which is still less than the cost of only Win XP Pro.
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