Re: Is this a new trend?
From: Hairy One Kenobi (abuse_at_[127.0.0.1)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:22:29 -0000
"Jim Watt" <firstname.lastname@example.org_way> wrote in message
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:17:51 GMT, Leythos <email@example.com> wrote:
> >I've seen hundreds of systems where the ignorant didn't have AV software
> >and in almost every case in the last two years their machines were
> >infected or had loggers/drone software installed on them (for machines
> >that were used with internet activity).
> Many people who do install av software do not update it and its
> next to worthless.
> >People that don't run AV software hurt the rest of us without knowing
> >they are - decreased public performance, increased spam, increase attack
> >drones, etc.....
> Not if they have good perimeter defences. The problem today is
> malicious email attachments, stop them and there is no need
> to run AV software.
> Well this machine does not have any AV software sucking its
> resources, and it does not have any problems.
> Yes there are circumsances where its a reasonable precaution
> but the heyday of AV software in its current incarnation is over.
Having advocated this, how would you feel if you loaded some software from a
purchased CD and potentially compromised your whole network?
Would you say "aw shucks" [whatever that means!] and shut down your business
for a day or two, or start making calls to the CD's publisher/retailer to
Now turn that around to when /you/ send out something with said virus, macro
I fully agree that Perimeter Defence is the way to go, but they don't stop
everything. By definition.
Assuming that a large organization (say 60k desktops - I'm thinking of a
Real Life (tm) example) has been penetrated by a new virus, undetectable to
its perimeter scan, where would you start in even estimating the impact, let
alone cleaning it up?
-- Hairy One Kenobi Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion in the first place. So there! -- Hairy One Kenobi Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion in the first place. So there!