Are ISP assigned Addresses Private Address Spaces?

From: mchiper (notnuts_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 11/24/03 

Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:13:55 -0500

 In alt.computer.security, Msg ID: <c1.2b5.2pDrww$1G4@12-237-213-129.client.attbi.com>
 "William L. Hartzell" <wlhartzell@comcast.net>, wrote:
>mchiper wrote:
>
>>>Now whether you or ISP is is performing NAT or PAT to allow private
>>>or even duplicate IP is really another issue.
>>
>> I vehemently dis agree..
>> The ONLY question is:
>> Is there a Law that says they MUST disclose the IP address they
>> assign to me using a Dynamic assignmet scheme..

>Depends upon where you are, your rights. In the US, ISPs are required
>by law to know your IP and to have records of the IP assigned to you and
>when you used them. There is a legal debate in court as to the legal
>method to require ISP to surrender this information to third parties,
>but not a debate about the fact that they have to when a proper writ is
>issued. This is not the place to be debating lawyer stuff that has
>little bearing upon your rights. BTW, you can change your NIC's mac
>address at any time you wish and when you wish to go thru your ISP
>enrollment process, if any. Your ISP has said (and you've repeated
>without understanding: "install a new NIC") that will cause a different
>IP to be assigned to you. Do it and save yourself a lot of telephone
>hassle vis your ISP. The question of how the ISP assigns IP to you is
>bogus. You have no need to know or care as it does not affect your
>rights or security. The only thing that affects your rights beyond the
>common & statute law rights is your ISP service agreement contract.
>Read it.
>
>Why is this thread being posted to Linux and OS/2 newsgroups?
As I said before, to ALL the groups..
Because the question is FUNDAMENTAL, and because it is IMPORTANT
to every one who knows more about networks, computers, bits a,d bytes,
than I DO !!!
>The only question of How-to change your NIC's mac address would be proper in
>these newsgroups, not everything else that has gone on in this thread previously.
But I DO know How to do this mind boggling SIMPLE thing..
So, it's NOT the ONLY question..

>Start a new thread if you wish to ask that question as most
>who would know how, have killed this thread already.
>And don't cross-post to those alt newsgroups!

Please DO NOT tell me How to protect MY privacy..
I'll do BOTH of the things you suggest. 

--
Ray

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