Re: M$ attack on Common Sense
From: Ed Murphy (emurphy42_at_socal.rr.com)
Date: 09/14/03
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 05:10:17 GMT
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:47:30 +1200, Max Burke wrote:
>> Oh, for heaven's sake, the presence of a "delete file" command enables
>> a virus to work! Look, here's a Linux virus:
>> #!/bin/sh
>> rm -rf ~/*
>
> That would work in Linux without the user knowing it was working?
Well, not for very long. A similar "virus" could introduce subtle
changes to text and/or HTML files; if it were a little smart, then
it could even use 'touch' to reset the time-last-modified to its
original value.
>>> But listen to many/most Linux/OSS users/advocates you'd think
>>> Linux/OSS doesn't have flaws and vulnerabilities. It does, and
>>> ANYONE who claims otherwise is spouting BS. It's certainly NOT
>>> advocacy for Linux IMO.....
>
>> If you *think* that, then either (a) you're not listening carefully
>> enough, or (b) you're listening to people who aren't thinking
>> carefully enough. Or both. Unfortunately, (b) does happen, yes.
>
> Try reading COLA; Try talking to the likes of Alan, sinister midget,
> etc,etc; Try reading the *numerous* websites that advocate Linux....
> ;-)
I'm familiar with Alan (unfortunately).
Alan != many/most (fortunately).
He may be most of the ones that you notice, though.
> I dont believe for one minute that every Linux/OSS user 'eyeballs' the
> code to find, report, and/or fix the bugs. I do however believe that a
> *LOT* of Linux/OSS users/advocates rely on others to do that for them,
> and then claim they're safe because *SOMEONE ELSE* is eyeballing the
> code....
Because lots of someone-elses, you mean.
>>> Set me free from *what exactly?* They're JUST computer operating
>>> systems Ed......
>
>> And you pay how much for 'em? Every how many months?
>
> I'm quite willing pay for products and services that I want/need Ed.....
So am I - *unless* there exists a free alternative that meets my
needs. And so there does.
> For The MS Os'es I have had installed on my computers the *one off*
> purchase price has been very reasonable, especially as I have been using
> some of them for 12+ years....
Windows 3.1[1] or DOS, then?
> BTW you are aware that there is NO monthly payment for using MS OS'es
> and applications.....
There's no monthly payment for using my OS, either. Not even for
a personal subscription to the Red Hat Network for updates (I just
fill out a super-brief survey every two months). How much does a
subscription to MSDN cost?
> Clueless users again. Cant blame the OS or app for that, especially as
> OE6 automatically runs in the restricted zone, and blocks ALL
> attachments to emails by default.
Good - they fixed it.
> It also just takes one tick in a user selectable option to make all
> emails and newsgroup message display as plain (ASCII) text.
This is a UI issue.
> A little bit more work on the part of the user also makes all sent
> emails and newsgroup messages plain (ASCII) text as well.....
And *this* is just plain annoying. Most of the (non-spam) HTML mails
I get are set to a font size of *2*! And they don't even contain any
non-ASCII formatting, so there's no reason for them to be HTML! (The
usual complaint about "bandwidth-wasting stationery" is one that I
almost never see, although I think it pops up from time to time in
some of my wife's chattier mailing lists.)
Sending in ASCII should be the default.
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