Re: [7.8.2002 44916] Notice of Copyright Infringement]

From: ricta (ricta@netrecon.com.au)
Date: 07/15/02 

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:02:18 +1000
From: ricta <ricta@netrecon.com.au>
To: Vuln-Dev <VULN-DEV@SECURITYFOCUS.COM>

Im sorry... I cant help but think that you are going mad.
A crime is a crime... you break the law.. its broken.
Copyright is there for a reason and all this guff about hot to get
around it and how to tell MPAA to F%#@ off is a load selfish
cods wallup.
All you guys that distribute this material are why the people who
obey the law a forced to people such high prices for movies, games etc.

My personal opinion... you should all start working out how to stop
complaining about the powers that be, and stop believing the
world owes you FREE stuff.

Get a job.. pay for it... freeloading thieves.

Kayne Ian (Softlab) wrote:

>2 points about this thread.
>
>First, a lot of people have posted responses to the effect of "Unless xxx
>downloads the file that is supposedly breaching copyright, they can't tell
>if you *are* breaching copyright or not, thus breaching it themselves".
>Unfortunately this isn't true (at least for EDonkey). EDonkey creates a hash
>of the file on your hd, and compares it with the hashes on everyone elses
>hd. If you're in the middle of downloading the file, Edonkey can be sure
>it's resuming the same file from someone else (regardless of filename) by
>these hashes. Therefore to prove copyright infringment, all these companies
>need to do is to confirm your hashes are the same hashes as a "real" warezed
>version of whatever movie. Of course the movie house give the company legal
>permission to download etc the file, therefore they are not in contravention
>of copyright law. So all the company does is run a donkeybot or similar,
>scan the network and log all the people who are sharing a file with hashes
>that match a warezed ver of the movie. Until it becomes illegal to own a
>checksum of a file...
>
>As a side note, this hashing works against them too. They may have been
>flooding the p2p networks with "bad" versions of movies, but all any
>sensible person needs to do is to use a website (sharereactor.com, for
>example) and use the hash link off there. Providing the website is "true"
>(and there are enough of them), you'll always be garanteed to download the
>file you actually want.
>
>Secondly, companies & "entities" in the USA really need to get a damn grip
>of themselves. A friend of mine received an email from a company saying he
>was breaching the DCMA etc for exactly the same reason as Keith Tyler. The
>problem? He lives in the UK, just like me. Sorry to tell you, no matter how
>much you don't want to believe it (and how many times you put a Skylarov in
>jail) American law does NOT apply worldwide.
>
>All that said, piracy is of course a crime. Views are my own. Standard
>disclaimer applies etc etc.
>
>Ian Kayne
>Technical Specialist - IT Solutions
>Softlab Ltd - A BMW Company
>
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