Re: DirectX 9 SDK, Microsoft have got balls....

From: Peter Thoenen (pthoenen@uwm.edu)
Date: 05/28/02


Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:30:58 -0500
From: Peter Thoenen <pthoenen@uwm.edu>
To: Chagres Role Account <role@chagres.net>

No..it would be a virus if it didn't warn you and you didn't intentially
  install it. If you don't like what they are doing, don't install it,
Bill doesnt' have a gun to your head. Nobody is forcing you and I bet
you (IANAL) that it is perfectly legal. This is much the same way the
FrontpageXP warns you that by installing it, you give m$ permission to
unistall ANY software on your box they wish. Needless to say, I don't
agree, so I didn't install it. Nothing illegal about it though, its a
TOS agreement.

-Peter

Chagres Role Account wrote:
> I wouldn't leap to the statement the original poster has
> a "questionable" copy of the beta.
>
> What I *do* find intersting is that MS is placing code on your
> computer that could cause it to NOT FUNCTION and thus cause
> financial loss, damages to your own intellectual property and
> other bad things.
>
> If this was anyone other than MS, it would be called a VIRUS.
>
>
> What if the person doesn't want to use Beta 2, or they have
> decided to change directions at their company and thus can't
> spend the time on Beta 2? Are you saying then that MS has a
> right to nuke a machine and cause a sysadmin to spend time and
> money re-installing the software?
>
> Will MS, pay the beta org losses?
>
> hmmm, I see tort written all over this against MS
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cami [mailto:camis@mweb.co.za]
>>Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:40 AM
>>To: vuln-dev@securityfocus.com
>>Subject: Re: DirectX 9 SDK, Microsoft have got balls....
>>
>>
>>| I've got hold of a copy of the DirectX 9 SDK beta. It
>>comes with the interesting warning:
>>|
>>| --------------------------------------------
>>| This beta version expires on Aug 20, 2002.
>>| You will need to reinstall Windows if you do not
>>| have a valid DX9 ID & password to download Beta 2
>>| --------------------------------------------
>>|
>>| Anyone in a position to comment on exactly what Microsoft
>>think they have the right
>>| to do to an end users PC?
>>
>>Since when do you have the right to 'get a copy' of DirectX 9
>>when only official beta testers are suppose to have it?
>>
>>| Less of a legal argument, more of a technical
>>"what-they-gonna-do". Format c: would be too easy.
>>
>>DirectX 9 can not be uninstalled, so when the timeout expires
>>and you are still stuck using it, guess what, your machine wont
>>boot into Windows XP..
>>
>>Moral of the story, do not use pirated software if you are going
>>to complain about the possible aftermath..
>>
>>Plain and simple, isn't it?
>>
>



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