Re: Bank Exploit
- From: "Jax Lion" <jv4l1n4@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:52:28 -0400
So Jason - what happened to your collegue?
IMHO - I don't think option 2 is a good idea. Questions will come up
such as - how did you discover the vulnerability in the first place.
What were you doing... and it all goes downhill from there.
I don't agree with keeping quiet either...
Is there a medium where we can report the "accidental discoveries"
without risk of prosecution? Like a hot tip line with the FBI or
On 7/25/07, Jason Thompson <securitux@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Risky... is this person a security professional?
This has happened to one of my colleagues before as well. There are
two solutions that are possible:
1) Do not reveal this or tell anyone about it. Leave it be. As there
is this heightened sense of urgency among banks to thwart potential
attackers the person could be in trouble with the bank for simply
discovering the issue. It really all depends on the person he or she
deals with there. Not saying it would hold up in court, it likely
wouldn't, but anyone who has the ability to find exploits is generally
regarded in a dim light by those who are uneducated on the subject.
2) Notify the bank's incident response team / security staff, OFFER a
non-disclosure agreement to them saying that you will not disclose
this to anyone regardless of what actions the bank decides to take on
their vulnerability, and state that this was discovered by accident
and that he or she simply wants to notify them about the issue and IS
NOT seeking ANY SORT of compensation. If they are notified and it
follows with the statement 'I would be willing to help consult you on
the solution for a small compensation' it instantly becomes extortion
and this person will likely be thrown in jail.
I am not a lawyer by any means, I am simply speaking from past
experiences and what I have seen happen to those who did things the
right way and the wrong way.
Solution 2 is a lot easier if your friend's client works in
information security and holds federal clearances and security
designations. Real ones, not Cisco or something :)
On 25 Jul 2007 13:34:29 -0000, securityz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Friend of mine (not me, really) is working with a client of his who claims to have inadvertently discovered a few web exploits of several financial institutions. Does anyone have any insights as to how this guy could bring these to the attention of the organizations involved without being seen as a hacker? His minimal goal is to help the institutions, optimally he would like to consult to help them rectify the issues.
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