Re: Value of certifications

Hi Brian,

I am in the same position. I think that expiring certifications are
__extremely__ lame. If you have earned something then it's not very
smart to take it away from you.

It's essentially a waste of time and a con trick to generate more
revenue by forcing to re-sit the same exams over and over again.

Qualifications are the beginning, not the end, and you should be
moving past them, not going back to their level all the time...

It was this that stopped me from bothering to get a CCNP. I have no
intention of ever re-sitting my CCNA exam and nor will I be doing any
other Cisco or other expiring exam, not unless my employer demands it,
is willing to pay for it and give me the time to go and do it...

I still have mine on there but my creds are dated as to when I got
them so someone can see I got it and that it is expiring/expired. I
don't see what is wrong with that, you earned it at the time and that
shows on your CV.

Hari


On 25/04/07, Brian Bemis <brian_bemis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have a question that kind of follows a long the lines of this one...

If you have a certification that lapses, can you still note it on your
resume? I got my CCNA certification 3 1/2 years ago, but do to recent time
constraints, I wasn't able to go take the recertification exam. Can I still
list that on my resume, maybe with the year it expired, or is that not cool?
Just wondering what others thought about that...



> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of lalit.gupta@xxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:18 AM
> To: iccnt@xxxxxxxx; bert.knabe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: RE: Value of certifications
>
> Certifications get you through Biodata scanners in HR :)
>
> Once you are through them, then only you are called for interviews.
>
> So, certs are important for career advancement.
>
> On another front, certs give confidence to your employer and client
> about your capabilities.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Lalit Gupta
> CIISA, CISSP, CCNA, MCP, CCE, CNE
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Doug Schlachta
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:44 AM
> To: bert.knabe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: security-basics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Value of certifications
>
> Bert,
>
> I suggest that if you are going to look at the Security+ cert you
> looking into the SSCP by ISC2 instead.
> I have not seen much value given to Sec+ cert but I have seen value
> given to the SSCP.
> It also gives you a good step towards obtaining your CISSP eventually.
>
> Regards
> Douglas Schlachta
> CISSP, SSCP, MCSE;Security, MCSE, CCNA, CFOT
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bert Knabe <bert.knabe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: security-basics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:18:11 AM
> Subject: Value of certifications
>
>
> My employer offers classes for 2 security certifications, CompTIA
> Security+ and Certified Information Systems Security Professional. I
> know that the CISSP certification is aimed more at management, and is
> worthwhile, but I'm not management (yet), so I'm looking at the
> Security+, but I don't know if it's worth the time. Does anyone know
> how much value it has? I've been able to follow the discussions I've
> seen here, but I wouldn't call myself a security expert by any means.
>
> Thanks,
> Bert Knabe




--
Hari Sekhon

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