RE: General question



Your boss is incompetent. Details of individual compensation are
either (a) public, as a result of a collective bargaining contract,
or (b) confidential to the employee in question, their manager, and
the payroll department within HR. In neither case is it appropriate
for a manager to discuss them with another employee, and so I have
to immediately wonder what other parts of Management 101 your boss
slept through.

The statement is wrong on multiple other levels as well, ranging
from "does he even know what I do?" to "managers should *never* put
themselves in the position of explaining to an employee *why* they
are being UNDERPAID -- because that presumes that they ARE".


Years back, a senior partner asked my boss why morale in our department
was "so poor", and she diplomatically answered that we didn't feel
that we were being treated as professionals. (She *could* have been
considerably less diplomatic in her phrasing, but she needed the
job....) Supposedly he answered "Well, you're not. Professionals
make over $XXX per year."
When the story made the rounds to me, my immediate realization was
that there was only ONE reason I was making less than $XXX, and it was
*who I was working for*, not what I was doing! So I knew it was time
to move on, and did.

David Gillett



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:listbounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Francois Yang
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:31 AM
To: security-basics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: General question

what if your boss told you that the network engineers who
maintain the network and servers got paid more (10k more)
than you the security analyst because they DO MORE THINGS?
what would be your reaction?
In my situation I was like WTF (to myself of course) and
basically said that it was a totally different area and job
description.
That also bought to my attention that maybe he didn't really
read my resume, cuz I was doing network administration for
the past 6 yrs before I got this job.
Now what does that tell you about the boss and my job?


--
If you think technology can solve your security problems,
then you don't understand the problems and you don't
understand the technology.
Bruce Schneier

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