RE: question about CISSP experience requirements
- From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:45:14 -0700
(ISC)2 now offers an "Associate of (ISC)2" designation with
no experience requirement, but they're trying hard to avoid calling
it "Associate CISSP" for fear of diluting the cert name.
David Gillett, CISSP
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From: rolando_ruiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rolando_ruiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:30 AM
To: bruce.monroe@xxxxxxxxx; security-basics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: question about CISSP experience requirements
You can get the associate of CISSP which does not require any
experience.
https://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?category=96
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From: Monroe, Bruce [mailto:bruce.monroe@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:48 PM
To: security-basics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: question about CISSP experience requirements
A CISSP has to vouch for the experience requirements. If a
certified CISSP vouches for the experience requirements when
you don't actually have them that is a ethics violation...and
a problem in itself that could result in issues with their
own cert. I was audited by ISC2 when I got my CISSP a some
years back so there is some checking done. From my experience
they don't check everyone, but they do check on a percentage
from every group taking the test. My recommendation would be
to get the experience and not try the get around the system.
There are plenty of other security related certificaitons you
can get in the interim, and the experience will stand you in
good stead regardless. My 2 cents...
Regards,
Bruce
Note - the opinions expressed are my own and may not reflect
those of my employer.
-----Original Message-----
From: e.m.baechle@xxxxxxxx [mailto:e.m.baechle@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:01 AM
To: security-basics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: question about CISSP experience requirements
Kurt,
You raise a good question. My opinion is that the CISSP
designation should specifically identify security experience.
However, my opinion is likely very far off from reality.
I've seen quite a few people achieve CISSP status from
passing a test, with no more experience on their resume than
5 years of changing backup tapes. Suddenly they're a
"security expert" with field experience.
The CISSP certification itself is the "gold standard" however
my observations have been that a lot of underqualified
people are achiving it. Much the same way that $$$ drove the
MCSE program to keeping a low passing score. Again, in my
observation, I think you could achieve the CISSP designation
if you had someone willing to attest to you having full-time
security responsibility.
Sincerely,
Eric B.
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