Re: Ping, ICMP and TCP Ping

From: Nikolai Alexandrov (voyager123bg_at_gmail.com)
Date: 08/27/05

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    Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:26:13 +0300
    To: zaka rias <sciensez@yahoo.com>
    
    

    zaka rias wrote:

    >hi,
    >
    >
    >
    hello

    >Im learning protocol tcp/ip and icmp, and as far as i
    >know that Ping (software) is using ICMP protocol to
    >transmit packets and PING is identic with ICMP.
    >
    >
    >
    Ping program infact is using ICMP, ping and ICMP are two different
    things infact, ping is using particular types icmp packets -
    "echo-request" and "echo-reply"

    >I have always wrapped my thinking that ICMP (and Ping
    >Program) echo/reply was a port 0 thing (like someone
    >said in
    >http://forum.sans.org/discus/messages/78/10869.html?1110164175
    >), and that's wrong.
    >
    >
    Yep.

    >Then i found something called TCP-PING. TCP PING can
    >be described as a TCP packet with the ACK flag set,
    >destined for port 80 of the target host (Mark
    >Wolfgang, Host Discovery With NMAP).
    >
    >
    >
    True, other methods also exist ;) look hping.org

    >i just wonder if this kind of method called TCP-PING,
    >when actually TCP-PING isnt using ICMP protocol, and
    >once more -> TCP PING 's using port when actually
    >PING program is not using a port to communicate.
    >
    >
    >
    It is ping indeed, for the general purpose of pinging host is to
    determine whether it is alive. Tcp ping may work where icmp ping may not :)

    >
    >
    >i hope you understand my english
    >
    >
    >
    >zak
    >
    >
    >Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
    >
    >
    >


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