Re: chat logs
From: Kinnell (kinnell.t_at_gmail.com)
Date: 05/13/05
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Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:33:50 -0500 To: Steve <securityfocus@delahunty.com>
I hate to present this possibility since it will lead to total loss of
privacy, but depending on when these threats were made and how long
has past you may be able to catch one of the students actively
discussing the threats with possibly the threat maker. So you could
install a key-logger on the computer and sift through the logs at a
later time. Now granted you will not be able to see both sides of the
conversation (unless you're doing screen captures as well) but it may
lead you to a time at which these conversations were taking place, or
a site at which, or any number of things. I'm sure that if your
police department wanted they could sophena the site for its logs and
find what users were logged in at a specific time and so forth.
good luck.
Kinnell
On 5/12/05, Steve <securityfocus@delahunty.com> wrote:
> Good luck in your search and my thoughts are with your community that this
> all turns out fine without incident.
>
> Most high school students will use AOL's instant messenger for chat. I did
> some quick research and did not see much on checking logs for AOL instant
> messenger but perhaps others on the list can help.
>
> See the web browser history log check recommendations here:
> http://www.perverted-justice.com/guide/?pg=parents
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/onlinesafety.html
> "In addition, the Internet browser (such as Internet Explorer, Netscape, or
> America Online) that children use to surf the web automatically tracks
> useful information. Parents can easily review the browser "history" file to
> see approximately 20 sites that have been most recently visited by that
> browser. Parents can use this Internet history function by clicking on the
> small downward shaped arrow in the address box of their Internet browser.
> Along similar lines, parents can search their computer's Internet "cache"
> files, which are system resources that store a longer list of recently
> visited Internet sites. The simplest way for parents to access the cache
> files is search for the word "cache" using the computer system's search
> function; the search function is typically found in the start menu in the
> bottom left hand corner of the computer screen. Parents can gather
> information using their computer's "cookies" records as well. Cookies are
> trace files that contain information about Internet users and can provide
> additional clues for parents about the kinds of sites that their children
> are visiting. However, parents should recognize that technically skilled
> children can edit or delete all of these kinds of records."
>
> STEVE
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa Fischer" <Melissa.Fischer@NorthMemorial.com>
> To: <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: chat logs
>
> Our community, Waconia, Minnesota has recently been the victims of
> threats against our children and schools.
> http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5399090.html
>
> The Emergency Response Task Force assigned to our case asked parents to
> go home and check their kids computers for any chats or emails with
> information.
>
> We are trying to find a document explaining where and what to look at
> to find any information. We would like to post this on our school main
> page www.waconia.k12.mn.us for a resource for parents to use on how to
> find any information. Can you tell me where to find this information?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Melissa Fischer
> Database Administrator
> Data and System Engineering
> North Memorial Health Care
> 763/520-1533
> melissa.fischer@northmemorial.com
>
>
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