Re: GIAC Dilution

Grant.Orchard_at_aws.aust.com
Date: 03/18/05

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    To: "Andy Cuff [Talisker]" <lists@securitywizardry.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:09:12 +1100

    Certainly not alone in that Andy. I was heading down this path myself
    *because* of the fact it was harder to obtain. Now I'm rethinking that
    decision. Is it too hard for vendors to walk the line between making a cert
    obtainable and upholding it's value?

    Grant

                                                                               
                 "Andy Cuff
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    Good Evening,

    <rant>
    Am I alone in thinking that SANS have greatly reduced the value of a GIAC
    certification? For those that are not aware SANS no longer require the
    submission of a paper in order to pass but merely an exam. They claim that
    too many people were unable to complete GIAC certification due to the hard
    work involved in doing so. As one of the many individuals that have
    attended
    a SANS track and was unable to find said time, I feel justified in my
    condemnation as I would actually benefit from this change. I use GIAC as a
    metric to reduce the time it takes to gauge the effectiveness of holders to
    fill security positions. This latest move will make it as effective as
    CISSP, MCSE etc, Something for management to quote but attainable by the
    masses and not a true indicator. GIAC as was, required the analyst to have
    passion for what we do, the time taken to achieve the certification kept
    those that were attracted by the potential of higher salaries at bay.

    Finally, how must those individuals (and their neglected families) that did
    commit so much effort to achieving said certification feel.

    </rant>

    That said, if you can't beat them join them, I'll be doing the exam as soon
    as I can and ride on the wave!

       Regards
    Andy Cuff
    Chief Technology Officer
    Computer Network Defence Ltd
    http://SecurityWizardry.com
    Phone (+44) (0) 7989 978538

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