RE: educating rDNS violators

From: David Gillett (gillettdavid_at_fhda.edu)
Date: 08/27/04

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    To: "'token'" <chip.gwyn@gmail.com>, <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:31:36 -0700
    
    

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: token [mailto:chip.gwyn@gmail.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 12:30 AM
    > To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    > Subject: Re: educating rDNS violators
    >
    > Quick little note on what is actually happening in the above scenario.
    > The e-mail server makes and SMTP connection to send the mail. The
    > receiving server does a lookup for reverse dns on the ip address. It
    > gets mail.mydomain.com, next the receiving SMTP looks for IP address
    > for mail.mydomain.com and then makes sure the IP's match. If so, it
    > delivers, if not, it rejects. This works with cluster type mail
    > servers as well.
    >
    > --chip

      So with TWO requests to DNS, you've found out what ONE told you -- that
    the IP address that is connecting to you *has* an rDNS entry somewhere.
    I could be a compromised cable-modem user whose ISP has put in a
    complete set of bogus-IP1-IP2-IP3-IP4-cablemodem-mumblemumble.isp.com
    rDNS entries for their entire address space, and, sure enough, every single
    one of them matches forwards and backwards without telling you ANYTHING
    about whether this box should be talking directly to your SMTP server.

      Confirming that the IP address has an rDNS entry is of very limited
    utility.
    Confirming that it returns a name that forward-resolves to that address adds
    absolutely none at all.

    David Gillett

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