Re: educating rDNS violators

From: Chris Olave (chrisfocus_at_saber.net)
Date: 08/24/04

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    To: <SMiller@unimin.com>, <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:21:17 -0700
    
    

    Our previous mail server setup included refusing all messages coming from
    non-resolvable IP addresses. We had toyed with the idea of imposing a full
    DNS check (forward to reverse matching reverse to forward), however we
    decided that it refused too much potentially-legit mail, we only allowed it
    for about a half hour.

    We had the rDNS requirement imposed for about two years and never had a
    problem with it. Friends and family emailing our customers would get a
    customized refusal saying "hostname lookup failed"; they seemlessly would
    forward it on to their provider who would eventually fix the problem. We
    imposed this restriction and noticed a fair amount of junkmail missing from
    our inboxes the next morning.

    Another way to catch a fair amount of spam is to require that the "From:"
    addresses on messages be MX-able. This will only catch the small bit of
    spam that hasn't caught up to the rest of the world (using fake domains).
    Newer spam methods include using a fake address "@yourdomain.com"; you could
    write a ruleset that will check to see if the "From:" is a valid local user
    (only if it's a local domain, obviously) and refuse to deliver the message
    based on the "From:" not being a true local user. This will catch a fair
    amount of spam as well.

    Have you looked into using services such as the MAPS RBL, DUL or other
    lists? We used these for a while and they seem to catch a good amount, but
    not nearly enough spam.

    We eventually decided to go with a "middle-man" mail filter. We pointed our
    MX records to the filter then the filter would forward mail to our SMTP
    server. Then we had the problem of spammers directly delivering mail to our
    server (ignoring MX). Then we had to impose restrictions for our mail
    filter to be "OK" to deliver mail but no one else. We are soon going to be
    changing our refusal message from "Access denied" to "Please honor our MX
    records and we'll accept your mail."

    Our customers have not voiced any kind of displeasure. If they do, we will
    simply have to tell them the remote end needs to honor our MX records;
    servers not abiding by it are not abiding by SMTP protocol in which case
    there's probably a reason they are trying to bypass the filter.

    Good luck!

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <SMiller@unimin.com>
    To: <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:49 PM
    Subject: educating rDNS violators

    > Our mail administration group recently implemented blocking of all
    incoming
    > messages from domains that cannot be resolved via reverseDNS, for purposes
    > of spam prevention. Of course, there are quite a number of legitimate
    > business contacts who do not have rDNS properly configured. Assuming that
    > the rDNS criterion remains, the question becomes one of who will notify
    > and/or educate the sender(s) about this issue. The only time-efficient
    way
    > that I can think of to do this would be to have instructions and
    references
    > in the body of the bounce message itself. Anyone tried that? Results?
    > Other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
    >
    > Scott
    >
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