RE: ISP reconfiguring cable modem?

From: Joshua M. Jones (jjones_at_isgwichita.com)
Date: 06/03/04

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    To: "Tony Kava" <securityfocus@pottcounty.com>, <security-basics@securityfocus.com>
    
    

    Let me throw this scenario at you folks. What if you owned your own
    cable modem and the ISP DID modify your modem such as flashing the
    firmware? I have a good example of that. The Motorola has a way of
    uncapping or editing your config file as you will. What legal rights
    does the ISP have upgrading a personal modem that bought from an online
    store? That would be another interesting topic to discuss as I am sure
    many ISP's are implementing their own ways to prevent abusers stealing
    more bandwidth.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tony Kava [mailto:securityfocus@pottcounty.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 4:47 PM
    To: security-basics@securityfocus.com
    Cc: 'David Schwendinger'
    Subject: RE: ISP reconfiguring cable modem?

    On 1 June 2004, David Schwendinger wrote:

    > I think an equally important question besides the "is it technically
    > possible" is: Is it or should it be legal for ISPs to reconfigure
    > equipment belonging to its subscribers, let alone doing it without
    > telling them about it?

    I think this has been hit on already, but I wanted to chime in as I was
    formerly employed by a cable modem ISP.

    Of course the TOS will allow your ISP to modify that modem's
    configuration
    at will. It is more polite to contact customers if they are singled out
    individually or at least post a clearly written policy / notice to
    explain
    how your company handles instances where you must stop or modify a
    user's
    internet service.

    The cable modem receives its configuration by TFTP when it boots. There
    are
    some SNMP variables that can be set remotely, but for the most part
    everything is set by the config file it downloads using TFTP. The
    config
    file is actually setting values for a number of OIDs (like a batch
    snmpset).
    For those interested in what the configurations can look like, the
    'docsis'
    project has an open source tool and examples for generating config files
    from text file configurations. See http://tinyurl.com/2xbyt

    If my recollection is correct, you have the ability to setup port
    filtering
    and traffic rules in the cable modem configuration. You might, for
    example,
    prevent outgoing traffic destined for port 25 (other than to your mail
    servers) to keep viruses and spammers from wreaking havoc. This can
    keep
    that traffic from even traversing your cable plant. Of course there is
    always the option of blocking this traffic at any of the routers or
    firewalls along the way.

    If you detect a problem coming from one of your users' modems you would
    only
    need to change their modem's config filename (typically on your
    DHCP/BOOTP
    server) then issue a reset command to that modem. The reset can be
    accomplished by either using an SNMPset (best method for most modems) or
    by
    issuing a reset from the CMTS. I have found that with some modems the
    CMTS-issued reset did not always do the job.

    The modem will reboot and obtain the new configuration. I should hope
    that
    your ISP would contact you, but if your company is as large as Comcast,
    and
    your problem is as acute as theirs, they may not be able to do so. They
    could, however either send an e-mail (assuming they don't completely
    disable
    the user) or force the user's HTTP requests to a web page that explains
    what
    has happened to their access and provides a method of resolution.

    I would be interested to see how Comcast handles this issue. Internet
    users
    tend to be very defensive (and sometimes brutal) when you take away
    their
    internet access, especially if they are misusing it. I've spoken with
    more
    than one spammer after blocking their ability to send e-mail. When you
    explain that their deeds cause undue load on your mail servers their
    response is invariably that your company should have purchased
    additional
    servers just to handle their 'marketing'. Most spammers (and on another
    topic, day traders) insist that they are losing hundreds of thousands of
    dollars for every minute they are without service.

    --
    Tony Kava
    Senior Network Administrator
    Pottawattamie County, Iowa
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